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Debbieg 01-15-2013 08:40 AM

Pedigree Dog exposed part 2
 
Has anyone seen it? I have not watched it yet



hunterisgreat 01-15-2013 09:08 AM

Says its private. Can't watch

codmaster 01-15-2013 10:53 AM

Yup! Private!

Debbieg 01-15-2013 12:18 PM

It worked fine earlier, The owner must have changed the settings.
Here is another one.

Pedigree Dogs Exposed Three Years on - Segredos do Pedigree 2012 - YouTube

Anubis_Star 01-16-2013 05:50 AM

For the most part EXTREMELY biased, does not give the true story at all to many breeds. For example, takes a BYB example of a breed riddled with health problems and paints the picture that it is EVERY breeder under the sun breeding dogs like that. I think the boxer they show is a PRIME example,

ON THE OTHER HAND...

I'm sorry to many SL people on here, but I agree with the german shepherd part. Too manly poorly conformed dogs are ranked as the BEST of Crufts. Don't get me wrong, I know there are good WGSL dogs. But you have BOBs that are so cow-hocked they can barely trot a straight line without looking ataxic.

It's also a shame about Fiona, another Crufts dog, and the uproar show people put on about that. Dalmations aren't always able to convert uric acid, and this can cause potentially fatal problems. An out-crossing to a single pointer 20 some years ago (I believe) rid the offspring and all descendents of this gene. Basically a clean, healthy line. Fiona is a grand champion. She breeds true. There hasn't been any out-breeding in her lines for generations. And she could add MANY many benefits to the overall health of the breed.

But they deny her and want her out because she's a "mongrel"? Titles and lines mean more than health, even though by every definition she is a purebred?


Fiona the mongrel and a spot of bother at Crufts: 'Impure' dalmatian angers traditionalists at the elite pedigree dog show | Mail Online

Anubis_Star 01-16-2013 05:51 AM

Oh my apologies, I didn't realize there was a "sequel". I will watch this and check it out. Probably just as biased and unfavoring to GOOD breeders as the last.

Anubis_Star 01-16-2013 06:37 AM

Watched it - I liked it. I felt the stand was much different than the first one. Instead of lumping all breeders into this "horrible" group, instead they focused on realistic problems with options and alternatives, and showed good breeders willing to fight, and IMHO bad breeders (no matter how many titles their dog's had) who just didn't seem to care for the sake of another win or another title or another purebred produced.

Debbieg 01-16-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis_Star (Post 2750074)
Watched it - I liked it. I felt the stand was much different than the first one. Instead of lumping all breeders into this "horrible" group, instead they focused on realistic problems with options and alternatives, and showed good breeders willing to fight, and IMHO bad breeders (no matter how many titles their dog's had) who just didn't seem to care for the sake of another win or another title or another purebred produced.


I agree the sequel is better and I hope people see it before purchasing a pup, understand what makes a good breeder and support them.

Liesje 01-16-2013 10:24 AM

I like this one better, maybe because it didn't involve GSDs, lol. However I think what they are asking is never going to happen. They already know that breed clubs set the standards. Kennel clubs are just registries, they cannot require health testing unless the breed club calls for it. And now we've seen twice what happens when you try to convince breed clubs to implement stricter standards.

Liesje 01-16-2013 10:26 AM

Also, I think these documentaries would do better if they were targeted towards buyers. Instead of attacking breeders (even though some of it is fair), why not try to help educate buyers? I don't know, this last one seemed to show people that were surprised that there was 1-2 or 2-3 linebreeding in their dog's pedigree thus doubling up on health issues. That's something very easy to spot before you ever place a deposit on a puppy. Breed is never going to change by going after the kennel clubs, since they don't set breed standards, but it might change if you educate buyers and put more responsibility on them so that they aren't buying these puppies.


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