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Old 12-22-2012, 12:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I hope we never get pulled over with Xena in the car since she barks and growls when unknown people approach.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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How awful...if the dog is restrained then WHY shoot it? Fear is not an excuse! If it were, than a female cop could shoot a very tall, large man that was already in handcuffs because she was "scared" of him.

Hopefully this man is fired and the department makes a statement that it does not allow this kind of abuse.

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Old 12-22-2012, 01:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It only takes four months to get in?

Sorry, a bit off topic.
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I did not watch the video but read some comments to understand the post. What a shame! I do not bash the law but you are so right when you say some of them know nothing about dogs .
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It only takes four months to get in?

Sorry, a bit off topic.
Hate to hear about this stuff...

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That's usually just the basic training, state laws, different blocks of study, some hands on classes.
After that, usually first year is probationary and continued on-the-job training. For that time, You'll have a FTO (or a group of them) evaluate you before you are able to go out on your own. At least here.
Depends on what job you'll be doing.)

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Old 12-23-2012, 12:34 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yo, you dudes that own pit bulls, ya know they have a bad rep. Ya know they ain't going to get the benefit of the doubt. People are scared of pit bulls.

If you own pit bulls, German Shepherd Dogs, Dobermans, Rottweilers, ya have to keep them safe.

Ok, so this person had a relative dog-sitting. Obviously, that wasn't the right choice for this dog, and this dog sitting relative. I feel for the owner, but he needs to be upset with his relative or himself for entrusting his dog to an un-trustworthy relative.

I am not exonerating the police officer. I don't want to go there.

But there are just so many ways for a dog to get himself killed when he is running loose. If this dog was run over by a Mack Truck and killed, who do we blame? The driver of the Mack Truck or the dog sitter. If the dog got shot by a hunter or farmer, who do we blame? The hunter or farmer? Well, sorry. We have formidable dogs. We need to keep them safe.

If we do not feel comfortable leaving our dog with a relative, then we need to ante up and take the dog to a kennel if it is too long for the dog to be left crated or in the house.

Maybe we should beat the owner up for not training his dog sitter how to put a leash on the dog and take it out.

This dog would not be dead now, if someone attached to his owner would have been more careful, would have understood his job, would have been trustworthy.

So who should be responsible for training in dealing with dogs? Police Departments or dog owners. This would have never happened if the dog was properly contained. Everyone knows that people are afraid of these dogs. I have dogs people tend to be wary of. I got to keep them safe. That is on me.

My first GSD was hit by a pick up truck. Witnesses said he sped up to hit the dog. He did not stop. Who's fault was it? It was mine. My dog was running loose. My fault. Another driver might have avoided the dog, true. Another driver might have caused an accident trying not to hit my dog.

It is a whole lot easier for me to adjust my actions to keep my dog safe, than it is for the world to change all the drivers in the world to be safer, more aware, less eager to kill a dog. I can't do anything to change their actions, only my actions.

Just maybe if people would start containing their dogs properly, there would not be so many people trying to ban the breed.
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Is this dog even a pit bull? It said that it was a chocolate lab mix...mixed with ????
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:23 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Police officers who asked not to be identified said they were surprised and outraged that Price will be charged and could lose his job if convicted
Seriously??? These cops should be fired too!!! What is wrong with these people!!!!????
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:27 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Yo, you dudes that own pit bulls, ya know they have a bad rep. Ya know they ain't going to get the benefit of the doubt. People are scared of pit bulls.

If you own pit bulls, German Shepherd Dogs, Dobermans, Rottweilers, ya have to keep them safe.

Ok, so this person had a relative dog-sitting. Obviously, that wasn't the right choice for this dog, and this dog sitting relative. I feel for the owner, but he needs to be upset with his relative or himself for entrusting his dog to an un-trustworthy relative.

I am not exonerating the police officer. I don't want to go there.

But there are just so many ways for a dog to get himself killed when he is running loose. If this dog was run over by a Mack Truck and killed, who do we blame? The driver of the Mack Truck or the dog sitter. If the dog got shot by a hunter or farmer, who do we blame? The hunter or farmer? Well, sorry. We have formidable dogs. We need to keep them safe.

If we do not feel comfortable leaving our dog with a relative, then we need to ante up and take the dog to a kennel if it is too long for the dog to be left crated or in the house.

Maybe we should beat the owner up for not training his dog sitter how to put a leash on the dog and take it out.

This dog would not be dead now, if someone attached to his owner would have been more careful, would have understood his job, would have been trustworthy.

So who should be responsible for training in dealing with dogs? Police Departments or dog owners. This would have never happened if the dog was properly contained. Everyone knows that people are afraid of these dogs. I have dogs people tend to be wary of. I got to keep them safe. That is on me.

My first GSD was hit by a pick up truck. Witnesses said he sped up to hit the dog. He did not stop. Who's fault was it? It was mine. My dog was running loose. My fault. Another driver might have avoided the dog, true. Another driver might have caused an accident trying not to hit my dog.

It is a whole lot easier for me to adjust my actions to keep my dog safe, than it is for the world to change all the drivers in the world to be safer, more aware, less eager to kill a dog. I can't do anything to change their actions, only my actions.

Just maybe if people would start containing their dogs properly, there would not be so many people trying to ban the breed.

I'm sorry but, no. Accidents happen. They just do. We have all had them happen. It doesn't make you irresponsible, it makes you human. The dog was already RESTRAINED. There is NO excuse to shoot it except pure meanness.

Yes, dogs get run over but to compare that to a dog that was already contained and then tazed and the shot 4 times is ludicrous.

People can be totally responsible and still have an accident. I have had it happen a couple of times. First time, someone opened my gate and Dharma got out. Second time, I was opening the garage door when Pippa opened the door from the house to the garage ( I wasn't aware she knew how to open that door) and both dogs bolted through the open garage door as I was getting ready to back my car out. The third time was just a couple of months ago. My bff came over to get my dogs when I was admitted to the hospital. She used the wrong leash ( I had left the right ones with the food but she didn't see them) and it snapped as she was walking to the car. Pippa took off and then Dharma pulled loose. It took her an hour to catch them because they wouldn't come to her. I knew NOTHING about it until the next day because you can bet I would have walked out of that hospital to come get them.

My point is no matter how hard you try, sometimes accidents happen. Apparently that dog knew how to open the garage door. It certainly doesn't deserve to be shot once it is already restrained. THAT is going to far.
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The dog was already RESTRAINED. There is NO excuse to shoot it except pure meanness.
Exactly right!!!!
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