The dark side of IPO Sport

Mrs.K · 09-21-2012, 07:12 PM

Patrick Keil aus Luxemburg - YouTube

Despite him being investigated for cruelty he still went to the FCI.

onyx'girl · 09-21-2012, 07:14 PM

wow...

at least the viewers are clicking dislike on that video....feel sorry for his team mate.

mycobraracr · 09-21-2012, 07:14 PM

I think I should do some OB with him! See how much he likes it.

Mrs.K · 09-21-2012, 07:17 PM

And they just sit there and watch....

Carriesue · 09-21-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs.K

And they just sit there and watch....

That's what I was thinking....

Though the dog screaming noises sound fake to me. I don't do IPO but I'm guessing the way he's correcting isn't normal.

Shade · 09-21-2012, 07:33 PM

He needs that whip shoved where the sun don't shine

That poor dog

Jax08 · 09-22-2012, 09:09 AM

Facebook Post from the FCI IOP WM 2012 page

Quote:

I officially inform that Mr. Patrick Keil of the competitor is excluded to participate the fCI IPO 2012 based on the animal abuse revealed on youtube.

The FCI strongly and strictly condemns the act of any kind of this behaviour.

qbchottu · 09-22-2012, 12:13 PM

Very sad...
I have seen/heard of trainers in this country (even my area) that do things like this. Perhaps even worse. In fact, I am sure Keil is responsible for much worse in the privacy of his home and kennel.

Something I was wondering about...in your opinions, what is the line between abuse and compulsion training?

I remember once I was at a schh club and a member was doing his obedience routine with his tough (and I mean VERY hard and intense) working dog. He was using an ecollar to zap the dog into a focused heel. There was a lady attending that was new to schh and she was simply horrified by this type of training. She actually had to turn away because the corrections were too much for her. It's interesting that what is over the line for one person is just a normal training day for another.

Jo_in_TX · 09-22-2012, 12:22 PM

That's horrible. No "sport" is worth treating a dog like this.

juliejujubean · 09-22-2012, 12:33 PM

I feel so bad for that dog. Gives his all just to be beat. Karma will come.

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09-21-2012, 07:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mrs.K Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,461	The dark side of IPO Sport Patrick Keil aus Luxemburg - YouTube Despite him being investigated for cruelty he still went to the FCI.

09-21-2012, 07:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 21,167	wow... at least the viewers are clicking dislike on that video....feel sorry for his team mate. __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo Last edited by onyx'girl; 09-21-2012 at 07:17 PM.

09-21-2012, 07:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Shade Knighted Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 3,433	He needs that whip shoved where the sun don't shine That poor dog __________________ Shanna My Pack: Jasmine - Female Miniature Poodle - born Aug 15, 2010 Loker Delgado Von Stalworth - male GSD - born Jan 26, 2012 Koda & Zazu - 4 year old male cats

09-22-2012, 12:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jo_in_TX Master Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston area Posts: 766	That's horrible. No "sport" is worth treating a dog like this. __________________ *Jo & Teddy,my female german shepherd, born Christmas Day, 2011 "One reason a dog is such a lovable creature is his tail wags instead of his tongue."* - Unknown

09-22-2012, 12:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
juliejujubean Elite Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,023	I feel so bad for that dog. Gives his all just to be beat. Karma will come. Sent from my iPhone using PG Free __________________ Diamond, Mar 19, 2011 Pictures

09-21-2012, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
mycobraracr Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,380	I think I should do some OB with him! See how much he likes it.

09-21-2012, 07:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mrs.K Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,461	And they just sit there and watch....

09-22-2012, 12:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
qbchottu Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,712	Very sad... I have seen/heard of trainers in this country (even my area) that do things like this. Perhaps even worse. In fact, I am sure Keil is responsible for much worse in the privacy of his home and kennel. Something I was wondering about...in your opinions, what is the line between abuse and compulsion training? I remember once I was at a schh club and a member was doing his obedience routine with his tough (and I mean VERY hard and intense) working dog. He was using an ecollar to zap the dog into a focused heel. There was a lady attending that was new to schh and she was simply horrified by this type of training. She actually had to turn away because the corrections were too much for her. It's interesting that what is over the line for one person is just a normal training day for another.

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