I disagree, because VS's methods aren't going to get anyone's face bitten off like when the CM fan owner tries CMs way, in order to "dominate" their own dog
What damage is that? Their dog gained a bunch of weight??
What damage has resulted from clicker training?
It's pretty tough to screw up a dog with reward based training...
And I disagree that VS's methods aren't going to get anyone bitten in the face. Because ANY method can be misunderstood and used incorrectly. I can think of a handful of dog's that I have met over my lifetime that would have bitten any body part they could have gotten a hold of if someone had blown an air horn in their face.
I saw a fearful GSP several years ago that was owned by an idiot who had watched Victoria Stillwell and liked how "positive" and reward based her methods were. The fearful dog would bark and growl as people walked past the ground floor apartment the dog lived in. The city Greenbelt that runs along the Boise River was just outside the apartment, so you can imagine the foot traffic. A bark collar was too "aversive" according to the owner, so she purchased an air horn and blasted it in the dog's face whenever the dog even looked at the patio door. Guess what? The dog got to the point where any aerosol can caused it to panic and if it couldn't get away, it would bite.
Or how about the owner with a young Golden Retriever who had a little leash reactivity? This owner used only a flat, buckle collar and a bag of treats. Unfortunately, because the owner was so slow in his timing, he was rewarding the wrong behavior. No, the dog didn't gain a bunch of weight, msvette. The dog was rewarded for getting stiff and up on it's toes, which in turned ticked off many dogs that saw that as a challenge and a warning and caused many a dog fight...which did nothing but reinforce the Golden's original reactivity and made it worse. Tell me how a clueless owner didn't make that situation worse, despite using a flat collar and treats?
I have watched many people do nothing but confuse and distract their dogs with poorly used clickers. Again, I maintain that the tool or method is of much less importance than how well it is used by the person on the other end of the leash.
I spend a lot of time talking to dog owners. I ask questions and listen to what they say (rather than lecture at them). I love sitting in on obedience classes and agility classes and listening to what the owners have to say. I have learned so much about how people see the relationship they have with their dog. The one thing that I can say with absolute conviction is that NO ONE method makes an owner immune from screwing it up.