PETA and Bob Barker Calling for Mandatory Spay& Neuter Law!

[CelticGlory]

*Note: I asked permission to post this, I hope for this is to stay PETA related and how this law can be either a good thing or a bad thing, and any additional concerns you would like for PETA to address. I asked some questions below and some concerns. I was made aware of this issue on another board.

US: ‘PETA and Bob Barker call for spay/neuter law to fight animal overpopulation’

http://worldnewsforlife.wordpress.co...verpopulation/

They have the required number of signatures 5,000. Any thoughts on how this will turn out? I mean what about all of the recent research that was done that shows that early spaying and neutering is actually harmful for animals? Also, I figure they would have to spay and neuter all of the tiny animals like pet rats, ferrets, and birds too. Also, this is especially bad for short nosed breeds because of their mushed in face, I would rather wait to neuter or spay those types of animals.

The only way I see this working is if they work with all of the parent clubs and the AKC so that COE breeder's and their puppy buyers aren't getting the short end of the stick. Not only that, but they would have to look at the reasons of why breeding is so important (which I doubt PETA will do, but one can hope).

In which ways could this be good for COE breeders and the responsible pet owners who buy from COE/Reputable breeders? What steps would you like to see that can address the issues with COE breeding and ownership for responsible owners?

I'm not saying that strays and shelter pets shouldn't be address too, but they are already required in some states to be neutered/spayed before leaving the shelter/rescue. This issue could really hurt future breeding and ownership. Addition Question: If AKC and parent clubs can get a say in this, should a requirement of competing in events be required to own an intact animal?

What would you like for PETA to address in this law?

[BR870]

Hurray! Just what we need... More government telling people what to do! Huzzah for big gov!



It'll happen about the same time that PETA gets eating meat banned...

[CelticGlory]

The issue is with PETA. By the way this is not about government, but PETA telling people what to do. This is also to stay unpolitical related. But, comments addressing the questions and PETA are okay.

[BR870]

Originally Posted by CelticGlory

The issue is with PETA. By the way this is not about government, but PETA telling people what to do.

Maybe I forgot how to read English in the last 15 minutes, but I pretty sure it said PETA is petitioning the Obama administration to pass a mandatory spay LAW... That is most definitely about government.

[Germanshepherdlova]

I think that PETA does have a reason to be concerned but I also think that a dog should not be neutered before 2 years old. I think that PETA needs to go after non reputable breeders. Reputable breeders will take their dog back anytime so they have nothing to do with the surplus population because their dogs don't end up in shelters.

PETA's heart is in the right place, but they are going about this the wrong way.

[CelticGlory]

I think that if a common ground can't be found with PETA, we will be fighting the issues for years to come. I think this law would be a good one if PETA would actually sit down and think about it more, a lot of people will be unhappy with them. BR870, I agree that PETA will start pushing for banning on eating meat if they win this one.

[ILGHAUS]

What would you like for PETA to address in this law?

Not a thing.

PETA's heart is in the right place, but they are going about this the wrong way.

I think PETA needs to keep their noses out of pet ownership.

I think that if a common ground can't be found with PETA,

I don't see that happening for many of us.

[angelas]

Originally Posted by Germanshepherdlova

PETA's heart is in the right place, but they are going about this the wrong way.

Their hearts? Maaaybe, in members that have nothing to do with forming policies or running the business.

Their minds? Not a chance.

[Germanshepherdlova]

PETA is concern with all the animals that are being killed because they are unwanted. This is a concern for people who care about animals. I felt awful when I was at the dog pound earlier today and saw all those dogs, many that I am certain would make wonderful pets locked behind those cages awaiting a savior and if one doesn't arrive then death.

I think PETA goes about seeking to regulate things the wrong way. They don't see a middle ground and that is a big problem, and probably why they are hated by many.

[BR870]

I know we are supposed to avoid politcs, but PETA is a political organization and their agenda and methods are fundamentally political. So I don't think a meaningful conversation about PETA can be had without politics...

...With that said, PETA thinks you and I are the enemy. Here are some nice quotes

(Pets) are slaves, even if well-kept slaves." --PeTa's Statement on Companion Animals.

"The cat, like the dog, must disappear..... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist."
-John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of a Changing Ethic, PETA 1982, p.15.

In a perfect world, all other-than-human animals would be free of human interference, and dogs and cats would be part of the ecological scheme, as they were before humans domesticated them and as they remain in some parts of the undeveloped world.---PETA pamphlet, Companion Animals: Pets or Prisoners?

PETA ultimately wants to ban ownership of pets through regulation. They want to make the barriers to breeding and ownership so onerous that its not worth it to most people. And from there its on to using the precedent set there to attack farmers and ranchers.

Make no mistake, their agenda is deeply political...