Prop B in MO... disturbing.

[BlackPuppy]

I don't see it mentioned, but Prop B passed by a small margin, mostly due to the population of the large cities.

I'm interested to see if any breeders are actually shut down.

[dogs_dolls]

Yes it passed . It will immediately affect the operations with more then 50 breeding females. Was interesting seeing who was funding all the ads here. There were tons of signs and radio ads against Prop B. Mosly paid for by livestock producers. (cattle, pork and chickens..which the bill did not affect at all)

I thought the bill was very clearly written on the ballot. Nothing tricky or hard to understand. You either were for it or against it. I am glad that we have the bill. Now I hope it is used wisely and well to relieve and prevent suffering. Time will tell. Maybe in a few years Mo. will not be known as the Puppy Mill Capital of the USA.

[Dainerra]

I was actually sorry to hear that it passed. Very slippery slope for all livestock producers as well as small time breeders. I'm not a fan of puppy mills, but there are already laws that would end the majority of their abuses, there just isn't enough enforcement! Never a fan of adding new laws when the old ones are adequate if properly enforced.

[dogs_dolls]

small scale breeders with less then 10 breeding females are exempt from the law. The large scale breeders were the main target of the new laws. They will henceforth be limited to no more then 50 breeding females. And this was targeted solely at dogs...no livestock....just dogs.
Also contrary to what has been said the new law does contain things that were not in the previous law...like no more then 2 litters per 18 months. I agree that more enforcement is needed and probably more employees to do that enforcing. My hope is that (for the sake of those breeding females) it helps improve conditions.

[Dainerra]

yes, but it is merely a step farther to expand this law to cover other circumstances. It happens in many other venues, but I do hope that this isn't the case here

[Samba]

It only passed in the large metro areas and a few other counties. Hopefully it will help with puppy mill issue but I not so sure of its overall benefit. It does not take much to expand the legislation from here. We will have to remain vigilant.

[AgileGSD]

Originally Posted by BowWowMeow

And here's what Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Kenab, Utah (a VERY reputable source) has to say about this bill: Raising the bar

Unfortunately, Best Friends leans heavily towards AR these days, at least when it comes to legislation. They also have typical AR type propaganda on their site about some subjects such as altering (some misinformation in there about neutering...): http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimal...uteradvice.pdf and mixed breeds: Best Friends Animal Society - Special Feature The "mutts are healthier" stuff is all over their website.

They are not the extreme group that HSUS or PETA is and I don't think they are an AR group but when it comes down to it, they will tend to support AR laws. The one big difference they have from AR though is that they fully support no-kill and AR strongly opposes it.

Originally Posted by JeanKBBMMMAAN

Are you upset that the American Cancer Society does not do cancer treatments?

The problem is that the HSUS's name sort of implies that they are associated with animal shelters. I suspect it is intentional, as they get a lot of donations from well meaning people who think this is a national group which oversees and helps local humane societies. The fact is, most of what they do is campaign for legislation which supports their agenda.

Originally Posted by dogs_dolls

small scale breeders with less then 10 breeding females are exempt from the law. The large scale breeders were the main target of the new laws. They will henceforth be limited to no more then 50 breeding females. And this was targeted solely at dogs...no livestock....just dogs.

Livestock producers will often strongly oppose any HSUS or PETA backed bill. HSUS and PETA would happily push for legislation outlawing raising animals for food, if they thought they could get it to passed today. For every victory HSUS and PETA have, it makes them more powerful and more of a threat to everyone involved with domestic animals.

If you like purebred dogs, owning multiple dogs, owning animals at all or even the ability to choose what you eat it is foolish to support HSUS or PETA back legislation. It might sound good and it might target the people you want targeted...this time. These organizations have a clear agenda though and any law they are proposing or supporting is just part of their bigger picture.