Police Officer Kills K-9 Partner

[selzer]

I have always heard that women usually get stiffer sentences when they kill their spouse because they usually need a weapon and get tried for murder 1 or premeditated murder. The battered woman defense does not seem to work in most cases. I expect that maybe they figure if you are that battered you would not be able to stick up for yourself enough to go out and get a gun or a baseball bat and do him in. Be that as it may, my woman just waited for her husband to fall asleep, got the gun and shot him. It does not say that she was beaten at all. The first one where the woman gets killed was beaten.

But it is much harder to PROVE premeditation when there is no weapon. And harder to defend against when there is.

The dog fighter started out with the intention of breaking a slew of laws and got caught, he should go to jail.

The police officer, was tried and not convicted. In hopes that our justice system works somewhat, the judge/jury should have had a more complete set of the facts than we here, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

Too bad the dog is dead.

[DFrost]

Originally Posted by Jessiewessie99

I heard recently that K9 dogs were also considered officers. I am in California,

I also know that during the Vietnam war, the dogs were treated and called "Military Equipment" and after their service time they either were humanely ethunized, given to the village people(Vienamese people) or assigned to another unit. Now they are considered war vets and when they have done their service time, they are retired and live with their partner or given to a forever home.

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I've spent almost a lifetime (I say almost, because I'm still above ground and kicking) working with military and police dogs. I love forums because of a number of reasons. Among them are it gives me an opportunity to present a different perspective on military and particularly, police and police dog training. Having said that, first I'll say, no where in the U. S. is a police canine considered the same as an officer. The penalties may vary state-to-state, but no where is it a capitol offense for killing a police service animal. My opinion is, that's the way it should be, they aren't human. As an officer, I'll send a dog on a mission that I wouldn't send a human. Sometimes, real life isn't pretty. As for the dogs that were left in Viet Nam. That was a tragedy and it upset many people. Mostly those that had worked those dogs and more importantly, owed their life to those dogs. Todays policies are a direct result of organizations such as: Viet Nam Dog Handlers Association (of which I am a member) The organization as a whole, expressed our outrage at the treatment afforded those fine animals. Personally, I'm very glad to see many of these dogs being retired and afforded good homes to live in.

DFrost

[LaRen616]

I even remember watching an episode of Cops and they sent the dog after someone and the guy struck the dog and I remember the officer yelling to the guy "You just struck a K9 officer, that's a serious offense." Maybe he was bluffing? But thats what I heard.

[Dainerra]

Statutes

this site has several states, looks like the toughest listed there is a $2000 fine. Others have as little as $100

[DFrost]

Originally Posted by LaRen616

I even remember watching an episode of Cops and they sent the dog after someone and the guy struck the dog and I remember the officer yelling to the guy "You just struck a K9 officer, that's a serious offense." Maybe he was bluffing? But thats what I heard.

I didn't say the offender wouldn't be subject to an ass-whipping, ha ha.

DFrost

[Jessiewessie99]

The man who came and talked to us un my ROP class was a K9 officer and he said that the dogs were considered officers of the law.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Jessiewessie99

The man who came and talked to us un my ROP class was a K9 officer and he said that the dogs were considered officers of the law.

Again, they are not considered by law to be the same as a human, and as such if someone beats or kills one, they can not be charged with homicide, manslaughter, or any other form of murder. Regardless of what people have heard and read, it's simply not the case that police K-9's are equal in the eyes of the criminal justice system. They are equal in the eyes of the officers, and the department, but they are not the same as a human and you can not charge someone with the same charges as you would a human.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by selzer

I have always heard that women usually get stiffer sentences when they kill their spouse because they usually need a weapon and get tried for murder 1 or premeditated murder. The battered woman defense does not seem to work in most cases.

The reason it doesn't work as a defense in most cases is simply because in most cases, the women do indeed wait until their boyfriend/husband is asleep, and then they kill them. You can not claim self defense in these cases, which is essentially what they are trying to claim. To claim self defense, there must be an immediate threat of serious bodily injury or death to yourself or someone with you (in which case, you can defend their life as well).

Originally Posted by selzer

But it is much harder to PROVE premeditation when there is no weapon. And harder to defend against when there is.

This is false.

[selzer]

well guys out this way get about 6 years for strangling their wives. Women get more.

[Jessiewessie99]

In California police dogs are considered officers of law. But it may depend on the state. I never said they are on the same level, I just said they are considered officers of the law.