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Old 08-03-2010, 01:01 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't give a hoot if he meant to kill the dog, you pick a dog up on a chocker and then hit it to are a coward. If he was so scared of dogs that a dog nipping it's leash unnerved him from past experiences to the point he felt he need to physically attack this working dog, he should have never been given the privilege to work with a K9.

Here's a comparison...
A man in Richmond Va was found guilty of dogfighting, he got a decade behind bars.
This man treats cruelly, and kills, a police K9, and he may get six.

How is that right? I don't think either crime is higher than the other, letting two dogs fight or painfully killing a dog you are supposed to train to protect the public?

If he is found guilty I hope he gets every punishment possible. Hope he's cellmate to a dog lover...
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I think there is a difference. One is premeditation. And most likely your buddy in Richmond Va had priors. Usually people do not go up for ten years with a squeaky clean record, unless we are talking murder.

the dog fighter most likely had a pit, different people there for gambling etc, dogs, probably got the dog ready for the the fight, etc.

The police officer went to a very legal training session with his dog and lost it and killed it.

The dogs are both just as dead, but...

With people, a guy who comes home all drunk and stuff and gets into a fight with his wife and beats her up and she dies due to falling on the corner of the fireplace bricks, does not get nearly the sentence that the woman gets when she waits for the husband to fall asleep, gets the gun, loads it and shoots him.

They are different crimes even if both of the victims are very much dead.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:45 AM   #33 (permalink)
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in the scenario you put forth, the guy would get more time than the woman. Most likely, he has a long history of coming home and beating his wife.

In the case of women killing their husbands in that manner, they are usually long-term victims of abuse.

Of course, that is assuming that both of them have decent lawyers lol

It's not a matter of right or wrong, to me at least. He is an officer who over-reacted to a threat and killed his k-9 partner. I would be more worried about his ability to react to situations on the job. To make it relevant to everyone here, this officer responds to your home. Your dog is in the yard or house, barking as our GSDs do. Would he shoot the dog because he is afraid?
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:45 AM   #34 (permalink)
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To me, killing your K9 partner is the same thing as killing a human police officer.

If a normal citizen harmed a K9 officer that is a serious crime because the force considers them as real police officers.

He should be charged with killing a police officer and animal cruelty.
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Old 08-03-2010, 09:12 AM   #35 (permalink)
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ROFLOL. That's we like Texans. You folks don't mess around with administering justice!!
Sorry ... idiots like this fool, just get my dander up !
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Old 08-03-2010, 12:54 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I have no idea who the man in Richmond was, but the story stuck out to me because I used to live there. And his dogs were not dead, either. Animal control killed them. He did have a prior, I looked it up just now. I'm glad he got the time he did, he did not treat his dogs well and was breaking the law.

I happen to think that an officer who "loses it" and ends up killing a large (and important) animal is a very dangerous person, what if it's a person he 'loses it' with next and kills? A lawbreaker who gets on his nerves perhaps. It doesn't take much more to kill a human than it does a dog. Violence like that is what is scary more than the animal cruelty shown. It shows he's got very little self-control and a short fuse. A very bad mixture for someone who is supposed to protect and uphold the law.
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I still think Stogey had the best idea of all. The guy's fellow police officers should have wrestled him to the ground and kicked in his ribs. They always say an officer who prescribes a certain kind of discipline for a subordinate should be willing to undergo that same discipline himself if he is the guilty one.
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If a normal citizen harmed a K9 officer that is a serious crime because the force considers them as real police officers.

He should be charged with killing a police officer and animal cruelty.
Actually, that's not true. They are considered property, not the same as a human of any kind. He was charged and acquitted by a jury. I understand there are those that disagree with the verdict. In my business I see that every day.

As for kicking in the officers ribs, well, according to the courts they would have been assaulting an innocent person. Where I come from that is assault, maybe even aggravated assault. Both felonies.

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Actually, that's not true. They are considered property, not the same as a human of any kind. He was charged and acquitted by a jury. I understand there are those that disagree with the verdict. In my business I see that every day.

As for kicking in the officers ribs, well, according to the courts they would have been assaulting an innocent person. Where I come from that is assault, maybe even aggravated assault. Both felonies.

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I heard recently that K9 dogs were also considered officers. I am in California, so maybe its different in every state or county. I was ROP Law Enforcement and we had a former K9 officer come in and talk to us and they are treat more like officer because that is what they are.

But like I said it probably depends on where you are. I also know that during the Vietnam war, the dogs were treated and called "Military Equipment" and after their service time they either were humanely ethunized, given to the village people(Vienamese people) or assigned to another unit. Now they are considered war vets and when they have done their service time, they are retired and live with their partner or given to a forever home.

Thats what I have read and heard. They are officers and soldiers who are ready to give their undying devotion and love to their partner. And to be treated with such abuse such as the officer who did this, is uncalled for. They deserve much more respect.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:09 AM   #40 (permalink)
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DFrost:

You are right, of course. Justice has to be without passion, blind to favors, and with due process, otherwise it becomes vengeance. My friend who was a prosecutor used to tell me that he could not handle cases where children or animals had been abused, because he was too emotional and he was always relieved to see these cases assigned out to other prosecutors. An animal which is beaten is always going to bring out intense emotion.
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