Should we ban some breeds?

[Dainerra]

no dog should be biting. I don't see any reason that some breeds should have more chances than another.

[Zoeys mom]

Yeah that was my point,lol A bite is a bite no matter the breed

[Jax08]

No...Banning ones leads to a very slippery slope...

[Dawn]

This debate has been going on for awhile in jersey...
it angers me mainly it is pits right now..but if they can ban one breed it can keep going.
And personally it angers me pits are wonderful dogs...half of our shelter is pits. The pits that are a problem is the owners fault...The owners of these dogs want mean fighting dogs.
Probably 98% of the pits I see at our shelter that I work at are goof balls!! I see more aggressive shepherds (sorry..lol), Rotti's and just mutts.
**** I had my arm broke from a bite wound from a Rotti a few years ago medicating it. Never had a pit go after me.
Any breed can be aggressive. And if they start banning breeds that can become dangerous to all breeds. Which one would be next after pits.
Get stricker judges that actually prosecute these people that fight these dogs and train them to be aggressive instead of a slap of the wrist and just a fine instead of punishing the entire breed.

[Jax's Mom]

I would love to see them try to ban a "breed" of person (not that I'd agree with that either) and see how that goes over.
Perhaps that would illustrate the point.
I'm fine with fining/jailing irresponsible owners but don't punish innocent dogs and their owners for what the dog "might" do, or is "capable" of doing.
Statistic show that 99.99999% of rapes are committed by men. Do we ban men? Nevermind that 99.999% of men don't commit rape but if we just eliminate men, we'd eliminate that first 99.99999% that did take place.
See how nuts that sounds?

[onyx'girl]

Originally Posted by W.Oliver

No, we should not ban breeds, we should ban owners!

2nd this!!

[Dawn]

I agree!

[Hunther's Dad]

With apologies to Pastor Martin Niemöller...


"THEY CAME FIRST for the pit bulls,
and I didn't speak up because I didn't own a pit bull.

THEN THEY CAME for the Rottweilers,
and I didn't speak up because I didn't own a Rottweiler.

THEN THEY CAME for the Dobermans,
and I didn't speak up because I didn't own a Doberman.

THEN THEY CAME for my German Shepherd,
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

[APBTLove]

Originally Posted by Dawn

And if they start banning breeds that can become dangerous to all breeds. Which one would be next after pits.
Get stricker judges that actually prosecute these people that fight these dogs and train them to be aggressive instead of a slap of the wrist and just a fine instead of punishing the entire breed.

Just a tidbit on this here... People who fight dogs to prove them true to their breed (What they call 'game', it means they will not quite fighting regardless of what their body says) do not make them aggressive, in fact, dogs used in fighting are the reason the pit bull breed is so human friendly. Because the two handlers and referee have to be right in there making sure they dont' need to separate the dogs, literally faces inches from the dogs... I've seen one handler in a video from Japan, I think - the man looked American though, lean in an kiss the nose of his dog while it was pinning the other as encouragement. The dogs are to show no aggression to people, especially those involved in fighting, if they did the humans could get hurt... They cull dogs who bite.

And most who fight dogs get worse punishment than child molesters... I actually know one guy who really messed up a 12yo girl that got nearly a year in jail, and a dog fighter from VA was sentenced to a decade.

And most who DO fight dogs, for whatever reason they do, contain them WELL, to keep them from getting loose or being stolen because the dogs are prized. It is not a dog fighter's dogs who end up on the news for mauling people or pets, most of the time it's a just normal pet owners, or those who got a bully breed thinking it would guard and treated it badly/did not socialize or even encouraged meanness to people.

I have yet to meet an actual pit bull, abused or not, who was human aggressive for no reason. Actually, I met one at my shelter, she was cage aggressive and was PTS.


And when a ban on 'pit bulls' goes into effect, it will normally come with a list of breeds like amstaff, APBT, SBT, and any dog who LOOKS like a pit bull type.


But bans include all kinds of dogs.

[APBTLove]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending those lawbreakers who do it in America, I'm just saying it would be a very rare thing for a fighting dog to hurt a human or to get loose and cause trouble, because they are very well-contained and are some of the least human-aggressive dogs you'll find... Logic just says no, it's not fighting dogs who cause the trouble.


Forgive me for going on and on, this is not just about bully breeds. BSL is harming many, many dogs and owners..
Here is a list of dog breeds who currently have bans/BSL in the US.
http://rdows.wordpress.com/rdows-upd...ed-dog-breeds/

List of 75 Banned or Restricted Dogs

1. AIREDALE TERRIER
2. AKBASH
3. AKITA
4. ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG
5. ALASKAN MALAMUTE
6. ALSATIAN SHEPHERD
7. AMERICAN BULLDOG
8. AMERICAN HUSKY
9. AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER
10. AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIER
11. AMERICAN WOLFDOG
12. ANATOLIAN SHEPHERD
13. ARIKARA DOG
14. AUSTRALIAN CATTLE DOG
15. AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERD
16. BELGIAN MALINOIS
17. BELGIAN SHEEPDOG
18. BELGIAN TURVUREN
19. BLUE HEELER
20. BOERBUL
21. BORZOI
22. BOSTON TERRIER
23. BOUVIER DES FLANDRES
24. BOXER
25. BULLDOG
26. BULL TERRIER
27. BULL MASTIFF
28. CANE CORSO
29. CATAHOULA LEOPARD DOG
30. CAUCASIAN SHEPHERD
31. CHINESE SHAR PEI
32. CHOW-CHOW
33. COLORADO DOG
34. DOBERMAN PINSCHER
35. DOGO DE ARGENTINO
36. DOGUE DE BORDEAUX
37. ENGLISH MASTIFFS
38. ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIEL
39. ESKIMO DOG
40. ESTRELA MOUNTAIN DOG
41. FILA BRASILIERO
42. FOX TERRIER
43. FRENCH BULLDOG
44. GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG
45. GOLDEN RETRIEVER
46. GREENLAND HUSKY
47. GREAT DANE
48. GREAT PYRANEES
49. ITALIAN MASTIFF
50. KANGAL DOG
51. KEESHOND
52. KOMONDOR
53. KOTEZEBUE HUSKY
54. KUVAZ
55. LABRADOR RETRIEVER
56. LEONBERGER
57. MASTIFF
58. NEOPOLITAN MASTIFF
59. NEWFOUNDLAND
60. OTTERHOUND
61. PRESA DE CANARIO
62. PRESA DE MALLORQUIN
63. PUG
64. ROTTWEILER
65. SAARLOOS WOLFHOND
66. SAINT BERNARD
67. SAMOYED
68. SCOTTISH DEERHOUND
69. SIBERIAN HUSKY
70. SPANISH MASTIFF
71. STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER
72. TIMBER SHEPHERD
73. TOSA INU
74. TUNDRA SHEPHERD
75. WOLF SPITZ