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Old 03-05-2010, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Shock collar!!!! Some of u might be interestd

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NSCC on Facebook!

The No Shock Collar Coalition launched its Facebook Cause today, March 2, 2010.
This will be one of the fastest and most effective ways for NSCC members and others to communicate and get our message out. If you're on Facebook already, please join our cause, and encourage all your friends to join. If you're not on Facbook, please join, make some friends, and then encourage them to join!

Our goal is to have 1 million supporters on Facebook by June 30, 2010!

This grassroots effort can only be successful if everyone takes a moment to pass the message along, so please take a moment and do your duty for the dogs! Find our Facebook cause at:

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Thank you in advance for your support. Remember that a handful of committed people can make a huge difference for good!

With gratitude to those who honor and respect our canine brethren, I remain

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click on ANIMALS - a page to browse comes up -
type No Shock Collar Coalition into the SEARCH box, at upper-right... (or copy-paste this phrase )
the Group-page comes up...


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an invitation to sign the original statement, too...
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In spring of 2006, a group of dog trainers and behavior consultants became increasingly alarmed at the proliferation of shock collar use among companion dog owners, inexperienced trainers and 'behaviorists', as well as the way the use of these devices was being promoted by their manufacturers.
From that concern, the No Shock Collar Coalition came about.
The NSCC began merely as a silent protest against the inhumane use of pain-delivering devices used in the name of 'dog training', and I created a single web page where principaled people could come and mark their name in a public place to protest the inhumane use of shock on companion canines in the name of training.

These devices are appearing with ever-increasing frequency in commercially available and inexpensive training "tools" sold freely over the counter to people who are completely ignorant about their capacity for harm. They are available as "bark collars", "remote collars" and invisible containment systems for both indoor and outdoor use.

We know that these devices are designed to work by the application of an aversive (pain, discomfort, fear, startle) which ultimately has a detrimental impact on the dog's learning, and many of their proponents are attempting to sell this training to the unknowing public by characterizing the electric shock as a "stimulation", "stim", "nick" or "tap"; these are all euphemisms for an electric shock.

Every day, we receive 5-10 more requests to join this list, and as we move into 2010, we anticipate having over 1000 names displayed here. As a cohesive force, we'll be moving forward with plans to speak out more vocally against the use of these devices, and make our positions known to their manufacturers, distributors and retailers, and any individual or business who sells these units or advertises them. We'll also be amassing and presenting a library of information about shock collars and the harm done by these devices, as a reference to dog trainers, behavior consultants and dog owners.

If you'd like to add your name to the growing list of professional dog trainers, behavior consultants, pet parents and others who want to take a stand against the use of electric shock collars for training dogs and controlling their behavior, please sign-up http://www.noshockcollars.com

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1. Dogs have been effectively and humanely trained for hundreds of years without resorting to the use of shock
2. The use of pain, fear or intimidation in the training of dogs is inhumane and unnecessary
3. Domestic dogs are partners in our lives and work
4. We are the custodians of our dogs and have the responsibility to treat them with kindness
5. visit http://www.noshockcollars.com for more information


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Old 03-05-2010, 12:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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E-collars have their place, if some people don't like them they shouldn't use them. For those that do, education is the key.

There was a show recently that documented a working farm dog that was obsessed with biting tires and had lost an eye from being run over and suffered various other injuries. The e-collar was used to prevent further injuries, which is more cruel?
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E-collars have their place, if some people don't like them they shouldn't use them. For those that do, education is the key.

There was a show recently that documented a working farm dog that was obsessed with biting tires and had lost an eye from being run over and suffered various other injuries. The e-collar was used to prevent further injuries, which is more cruel?


It's a personal thing, but i would prefer to bring in a trainer rather than inflict pain. I raise my dogs with my family & i certainy wouldnt put a collar on one of my kids for misbehaving!!!! Each to their own.
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Nevermind. Member asked for permission from the writer of this text to post it here. Thank you.
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Education is the key - not outright banning. Shock collars have their place and their uses.

I don't think a tool I have been using humanly (set so low it does NOT cause pain) should be taken away because other people out there are idiots and don't understand how to train a dog.
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Education is the key - not outright banning. Shock collars have their place and their uses.

I don't think a tool I have been using humanly (set so low it does NOT cause pain) should be taken away because other people out there are idiots and don't understand how to train a dog.
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Same mindset of baning breeds, or anything you don't fully understand and fear.
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I don't support this at all, and likely 99% of people who DO support it have never even seen a shock collar in use before, let alone are educated enough about them to make a proper decision.

I do not take training advice from the average 'oh-my-little-dog-is-biting-your-dog-how-cute' Joe.
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I've never used a shock collar, never plan on using one. BUT IMHO there is a place for them when used correctly and there's no way I would support such a movement.

There are too many busy bodies sticking their noses into everyone's business these days resulting in breed bans, mandatory spay neuter, groups wanting to eradicate animal ownership, etc. We don't need another "do good" movement to fight.
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I've seen more damage inflicted by people leaving flat nylon collars on their dogs. Where's the coalition banning nylon collars?....
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