Shock collar!!!! Some of u might be interestd

[Shandril2]

Originally Posted by Castlemaid

Education is the key - not outright banning. Shock collars have their place and their uses.

I don't think a tool I have been using humanly (set so low it does NOT cause pain) should be taken away because other people out there are idiots and don't understand how to train a dog.

[Syaoransbear]

Originally Posted by LouCastle

You made the claim that someone had said that an Ecollar "is the only humane way to train." I asked for a link to such a statement (I don't believe that anyone has said this) and you did not supply it.

I think selzer was refering to this post

Originally Posted by Mrs.K

You do realize that using a shock collar is the most humanly thing you can do, IF you use it properly and the right way?

because that's how I understood it as well.

[LouCastle]

Earlier Mrs.K wrote,

You do realize that using a shock collar is the most humanly thing you can do, IF you use it properly and the right way? [Emphasis added]

Originally Posted by Syaoransbear

I think selzer was refering to this post because that's how I understood it as well.

You may be right. But there's an important difference between the two statements. Selzer's statement was this

Someone suggeste it is the only humane way to train, and I disagree completely.

There's a significant difference between "the most" and "the only."

But selzer would probably disagree either way. LOL.

[selzer]

Syaoransbear, thank you for finding the statement for my good buddy Lou.

Every group must have someone who will argue until they are blue about semantics. Life is too short.

"For what do we live, but to make sport for the neighbors and to laugh at them in our turn." Jane Austen

[LouCastle]

Originally Posted by selzer

Syaoransbear, thank you for finding the statement for my good buddy Lou. Every group must have someone who will argue until they are blue about semantics. Life is too short.

Anyone who says that there's no difference between "the MOST humane" method and "the ONLY humane" method is either *** removed by Admin******* trying to hide the truth, or some combination of these. I leave the readers to decide which is going on here.

[Kayla's Dad]

Time to give it a rest, Lou. Selzer took the higher road and tried to disengage. Why not try to do the same. The value of what you contribute to e-collar training and information, at least on the forum here, really gets so lost and diminished when you go on these continued attacks like this, it's ridiculous. Maybe in your world, you're enlightening folks in this manner but to the reader, it just looks like you're going on (another) back and forth attack. JMHO.