Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs.

Sasha2008 · 02-14-2009, 07:50 AM

There is a rally today in our area to get the law changed.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswi...gs-barton.html

Bogart's Dad

marksteven · 02-14-2009, 08:01 AM

Why does that not surprise me? judge sounds like a real Shmuck.

Reik's mom · 02-14-2009, 10:08 AM

What the %$#&????
None of that makes any sense at all.. ???????
What kind of legislation is that??
Those poor puppies and dogs..It makes me ill...
Good luck for the rally....
As for the judge being a shmuck... ??? my sentiments exactly with a bunch of profanity in there too....lol..

george1990 · 02-16-2009, 11:02 AM

Sorry, I can usually understand most verdicts, but... WHAT THE *#*#?

He killed, what 5 dogs? And it doesn't count as murder because they were unconscious? DUH they were unconscious, he hit them with a freakin' hammer. But he gets charged with the one that lives?

bdavis86 · 02-16-2009, 03:04 PM

This is stupid, clearly the judge isn't a real animal lover...

selzer · 02-16-2009, 05:49 PM

No, if you kill your animal it is not murder. You can euthanize a dog, you cannot euthanize a person, at least not in the US.

I think he should be nailed for cruelty on all counts as he could not possibly prove that the dead animals did not suffer as one of his dogs lived.

I do not know whether a carpenter's hammer is any bigger or more utilitarian as a regular hammer. The idea of using a hammer to kill something sounds awful, but if you knew exactly where to strike, then I suppose you could kill something as quickly as with drugs.

One of the accepted ways of killing beef cattle is to strike them with a sledge hammer.

If you shot something, drugged something, hit something with the intention of killing it, it is not necessarily cruelty. I think that cruelty should be reserved for those people who do things like set an animal on fire or cut of their paws, people who revel in watching the animal suffer and die.

I think the Ohio law reads that you must euthanize a dog in such a way as to provide a drug that will cause the animal to go to sleep and then die. However, this does not hold true for "humane" societies who can stab or gas animals, they used to electrocute them.

GunnerJones · 02-16-2009, 06:08 PM

In Henrico County where I live, you are not allowed to destroy your own dog

Fafhrd · 02-17-2009, 12:52 AM

--When Barton testified in November he described the day he killed his dogs as "the worst day of my life, when I had to do that to my babies."

Had to? Huh?

wsumner26 · 02-17-2009, 11:33 AM

very scary..I don't know what the judge was thinking.

L_Dan · 02-18-2009, 01:07 PM

Sometimes I just can't help but chime in.

It seems selzer is the only person to respond with logic and wisdom.

Whenever a judge is involved and you people only read a snippet, you have to go with the judge. You can't immediately claim the judge an animal-hater, a moron, unthinking.
The case went to court. Come on, justice in that city was served. The authority has passed judgement and that is that.

I have and will again, if necessary, killed my pets. I will not let one suffer with prolonged pain.
We can disagree with the method this guy used, but the judge likely did his job according to the law.

02-14-2009, 07:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sasha2008 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Moncton NB, Canada Posts: 371	Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. There is a rally today in our area to get the law changed. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswi...gs-barton.html Bogart's Dad __________________ Bogart 3 years old GSD "He/she is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.

02-14-2009, 08:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
marksteven Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ne. Wisconsin Posts: 1,270	Re: Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. Why does that not surprise me? judge sounds like a real Shmuck. __________________ RAMSEY 10/07 Mark.o

02-14-2009, 10:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Reik's mom Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,373	Re: Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. What the %$#&???? None of that makes any sense at all.. ??????? What kind of legislation is that?? Those poor puppies and dogs..It makes me ill... Good luck for the rally.... As for the judge being a shmuck... ??? my sentiments exactly with a bunch of profanity in there too....lol.. __________________ Erin Mom to Bismarck, Brya, Kayla RIP sweet Reiker RIP my Fanainy (Rana) Life...When you don't have a GSD it can be grand... when you have a GSD it is priceless..

02-16-2009, 11:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
george1990 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 338	Re: Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. Sorry, I can usually understand most verdicts, but... WHAT THE ##? He killed, what 5 dogs? And it doesn't count as murder because they were unconscious? DUH they were unconscious, he hit them with a freakin' hammer. But he gets charged with the one that lives? __________________ M&M Miko - German Shepherd (2/11/09) Max - Pomeranian Mix Rescue (8/8/1997)

02-16-2009, 03:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
bdavis86 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 146	Re: Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. This is stupid, clearly the judge isn't a real animal lover... __________________ Sydney (Black GSD Female - 6-12-08) Find her on Dogster

02-16-2009, 05:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	Re: Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. No, if you kill your animal it is not murder. You can euthanize a dog, you cannot euthanize a person, at least not in the US. I think he should be nailed for cruelty on all counts as he could not possibly prove that the dead animals did not suffer as one of his dogs lived. I do not know whether a carpenter's hammer is any bigger or more utilitarian as a regular hammer. The idea of using a hammer to kill something sounds awful, but if you knew exactly where to strike, then I suppose you could kill something as quickly as with drugs. One of the accepted ways of killing beef cattle is to strike them with a sledge hammer. If you shot something, drugged something, hit something with the intention of killing it, it is not necessarily cruelty. I think that cruelty should be reserved for those people who do things like set an animal on fire or cut of their paws, people who revel in watching the animal suffer and die. I think the Ohio law reads that you must euthanize a dog in such a way as to provide a drug that will cause the animal to go to sleep and then die. However, this does not hold true for "humane" societies who can stab or gas animals, they used to electrocute them. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear

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02-17-2009, 12:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
Fafhrd Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 308	Re: Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. --When Barton testified in November he described the day he killed his dogs as "the worst day of my life, when I had to do that to my babies." Had to? Huh? __________________ Kyra, female GSD, whelped 6/15/10 Karloff, male sable GSD, whelped 6/30/08 Tuco, male black GSD, 7/17/97--8/13/08, RIP Ada, female GSD mix, RIP

02-17-2009, 11:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
wsumner26 Knighted Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,588	Re: Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. very scary..I don't know what the judge was thinking.

02-18-2009, 01:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
L_Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 244	Re: Man gets slap on wrist for killing dogs. Sometimes I just can't help but chime in. It seems selzer is the only person to respond with logic and wisdom. Whenever a judge is involved and you people only read a snippet, you have to go with the judge. You can't immediately claim the judge an animal-hater, a moron, unthinking. The case went to court. Come on, justice in that city was served. The authority has passed judgement and that is that. I have and will again, if necessary, killed my pets. I will not let one suffer with prolonged pain. We can disagree with the method this guy used, but the judge likely did his job according to the law.

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