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Old 01-28-2009, 03:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: Florida mandatory S/N & BSL bills

Here is a new one!!

Genetic defects disclosure,
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/B...B&SessionId=61&

pdf of it:
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/D...88&Session=2009

hey want to add wording to the bill of sale stating written notice to buyers:
Dogs and cats are susceptible to more than 300 genetic disorders. Certain breeds may be predisposed to certain health problems. Therefore, it is recommended you get a scientific screening test for your dog or cat to help identify a number of genetic diseases.

And

USED TO BE:
For the purposes of subsections (5)-(12) and (16), the
term “pet dealer” means any person, firm, partnership, corporation, or other association that which, in the ordinary course of business, engages in the sale of more than two
litters, or 20 or more dogs or cats, per year, whichever is greater, to the public. This definition includes breeders of animals who sell such animals directly to a consumer.

WANT TO BE:
For the purposes of subsections (5)-(12) and (16), the
term “pet dealer” means any person, firm, partnership, corporation, or other association that which, in the ordinary course of business, engages in the sale of 20 or more dogs or cats, per year to the public. This definition includes breeders of animals who sell such animals directly to a consumer.


So basically if I have a large litter of 13, then a 2nd litter of 7, I would be classified as a pet dealer.

I don't have a problem with adding the wording etc, BUT I have a problem with being micromanaged. Personally if someone hasn't done their homework on the breed and know what genetically that breed can be predisposed to, then they get what they asked for, imo.

Find your florida senator here!!

http://www.flsenate.gov/Welcome/inde...TOKEN=97473416
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ok, Florida senate has now introduced a BSL that's basically identical to the house version!!

http://myfloridahouse.com/Sections/B...4&SessionId=61
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Default More Florida legislation !!!!!

Just introduced: http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view_pag.../billtext/html/

Some are good points, some I have issues with.

good: no more than 50 dogs
min requirements for crates/kennels
min exercise time


(I'd have to buy smoke alarms and fire extinguishers for my kennel housing area as that would be newly required)

bad:
Provide shelter and protection from extreme temperatures and weather conditions that may be uncomfortable or hazardous to the dogs. Ambient temperature must not fall below 50° Fahrenheit or rise above 85° Fahrenheit.

Excuse me, this is florida, it's over 85 almost 10 months out of the year. So am I not to have any dogs in kennels at times (it's covered and has a 36" industrial fan to circulate air).
Kennel housing already has a/c and a heater.


Provide sufficient shade to shelter all the dogs housed in the primary enclosure at one time.
(so for people who have individual runs, no more ind. covers??)

Have floors that are constructed in a manner that protects the dogs' feet and legs from injury. Ground-level kennels must be of poured concrete and sealed with an epoxy sealant so that the runs can be properly cleaned and disinfected. Raised kennels must be slatted with a solid resting surface.

No more gravel, mulch, etc. So any outdoor runs I'd have to say forget mulch/ground but have to pour a slab for?

Ensure that all dogs housed in the same housing or
enclosure are compatible, as determined by observation by
trained persons. Animals that have a vicious or aggressive
disposition must be housed individually. Breeding females in
heat may not be housed in the same enclosure with sexually
mature males, except for breeding. Breeding females that have
litters may not be housed in the same enclosure with other adult
dogs. Puppies younger than 12 weeks of age may not be housed in
the same enclosure with other adult dogs, other than the dam or
foster dam.

ok so my kennel housing has 2 rooms, one side the adults go into their crates at night, other side of the door is the dam/puppy/whelping area. So this could no longer be as it's in the same enclosure?


Provide veterinary care without delay when necessary. A
male unaltered dog must be examined by a veterinarian at least
once a year, and a female unaltered dog must be examined by a
veterinarian at least once a year or before each attempt to
breed, whichever occurs more frequently. The veterinarian shall
use appropriate methods to prevent, control, diagnose, and treat
diseases and injuries. A dog may not be bred if a veterinarian
determines that the animal is unfit for breeding purposes. Only
dogs between the ages of 18 months and 8 years of age may be
used for breeding. Female dogs may be allowed to whelp only one
litter per year. Ear cropping, tail docking, debarking, and
surgical births are prohibited except under anesthesia and must
be performed by a licensed veterinarian. Animals requiring
euthanasia may be euthanized only by a licensed veterinarian.

Ok, most of this is good. But Florida has implemented 3 yr vaccines now, so this seems like just a way for vets to make more money. In an ideal world, people can get to a vet in time for emergency euthanization, but sometimes drastic measures have to be taken say if the dog is screaming in pain, person disabled, can't get to a vet, you do what you have to do to end the animals suffering.


I used I in there just to give examples, but the actual text states:
As used in this subsection, the term “retail pet store” means a
commercial establishment that engages in the for-profit business
of selling at retail cats, dogs, or other animals to be kept as
household pets. The term does not include any person or
establishment that breeds or raises animals to sell, exchange,
or broker or who otherwise transfers the animals to the public
as household pets.
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