back after 12 months - please critique

[Freestep]

I would expect American show line people to disdain your dog, as he looks nothing like an American showline dog, and no he would not win in an AKC conformation show. They obviously aren't used to seeing a working-line GSD, so they don't know any better. I would just ignore it, it's not worth your while getting upset or trying to argue with these people.

What are you in training for?

[x11]

not upset, to be honest i was a bit shocked at first but over it, the dog scene is just like that. just training to be a back yard hero and have fun with my dogs and make sure they are geting all the physical, emotional and psychological needs met. i do some security work part time and if the dog suits the work he will escort me on foot patrol. that is the gene pool he is bred from except one outcross to a sport line.

hey aint no big thing but thanks for commenting.

[bocron]

Originally Posted by x11

GSD/AKC breed registry peeps at the show/obed club. i have to train in a corner of the field away from the other members. i walk in the gate and there dogs all react to him and they start jerking their dogs necks around. my dog has no dog aggression at all but he struts around and drags me onto the field. their dogs have to be submissive and out of drive 100% of their existence - it is sad to see.

Getting an opinion on a WL GSD from an AKC show club membership is like taking a BMW to be critiqued at a Mopar show. I would maybe go for the experience, but not for a serious opinion (of the car or the dog ).

He is a nice looking boy, athletic build, open and outgoing expression. The proof is in the pudding, if his temperament is like you described and he enjoys the work with you, be it obedience or whatever you choose, and he is structurally sound then based on the pics you have a great dog. Enjoy him!

[x11]

thanks you people are so nice, i don't blame the AKC crowd i bring a lot of it on myself - the reason i train at the other end of the field is cos i amp my boy up for obed which ditracts the AKC style obed training where they all get in a long line and the whole group does the same thing at same time;

walk yr dog

left turn

about trurn

halt

down your dog

leave yr dog

return to your dog

praise your dog

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etc, its like being in grade school, how can people enjoy that, how can a dog? i am up the other end of the field cos while they are doing that i am getting my pup out of it's brain in drive, also use a bite wedge which they're insurance doesn't cover and they think it is attack training.

here is how my boy moves, screw those stack shots...jk. this is sorta recent;

environment - YouTube

environment - YouTube

[RocketDog]

Love it! I thought I was the only one who played tug with sticks, heh. My boy also likes to "kill" but with maple leaves.

He looks like a great dog. You know everyone will now want his pedigree, right? (and I mean that in a good way)

[Freestep]

Originally Posted by x11

i don't blame the AKC crowd i bring a lot of it on myself - the reason i train at the other end of the field is cos i amp my boy up for obed which ditracts the AKC style obed training where they all get in a long line and the whole group does the same thing at same time;

walk yr dog

left turn

about trurn

halt

down your dog

leave yr dog

return to your dog

praise your dog

.
.
.

etc, its like being in grade school, how can people enjoy that, how can a dog? i am up the other end of the field cos while they are doing that i am getting my pup out of it's brain in drive, also use a bite wedge which they're insurance doesn't cover and they think it is attack training.

Are you actually supposed to be at the other end of the field doing your own thing? I can see how they might get snarky with you if you are distracting their dogs or scaring them. Is this a class, or a club? Have you talked to the instructor or training director about this?

Personally, I think a dog of sound temperament should be able to withstand the presence of a dog playing at the other end of the field... but *they* might not feel the same way about it. If their dogs are freaking out in front of everybody, they might be embarrassed and angry with you for bringing it out.

Anyway, just trying to figure why they would have been so snotty to you.

I find it odd that their insurance won't cover a bite wedge, but whatever... is it the size of the toy, or the fact that it is tug-of-war?

[x11]

Originally Posted by Freestep

Are you actually supposed to be at the other end of the field doing your own thing?

i am not supposed to be at the end of the field where the club peeps are at.

I can see how they might get snarky with you if you are distracting their dogs or scaring them.

doing both and they get snarky. i like scaring them, i don't like when they correct their dogs for being distracted.

Is this a class, or a club?

both, a club that runs classses and competes

Have you talked to the instructor or training director about this?

they have a pres - she is really nice actually and brokered the deal that i can stay but under above conditions. she is a nice lady with a good heart who is nice to dogs. i respect her.

Personally, I think a dog of sound temperament should be able to withstand the presence of a dog playing at the other end of the field...

YES, someone gets it, they are show and obed dogs, they should be trained under distractions not isolated from them - DUH

but *they* might not feel the same way about it.

true that

If their dogs are freaking out in front of everybody, they might be embarrassed and angry with you for bringing it out.

two out of two, i want you in my team.

Anyway, just trying to figure why they would have been so snotty to you.

i am like a live troll i guess. passive aggressive type

I find it odd that their insurance won't cover a bite wedge, but whatever... is it the size of the toy, or the fact that it is tug-of-war?

they accept a bite pillow but not a wedge??? they only got into tug for obed after a recent seminar when a famous person said this is good. not many have adopted it tho to the extent as an ME follower would.

see response above, thanks

[x11]

Originally Posted by RocketDog

Love it! I thought I was the only one who played tug with sticks, heh. My boy also likes to "kill" but with maple leaves.

He looks like a great dog. You know everyone will now want his pedigree, right? (and I mean that in a good way)

COMMUNITTY ANNOUNCEMENT; sticks are not reccomended play toys, they can be driven thru the roof of a dogs mouth if they land wrong and dog fetches them - had to get that out, you never know who is lurking.


thanks for liking my dog, yr on his friends list.

he is unpapered BTW

[julie87]

If he is so ugly can I have him?

[x11]

there are times i would say yes...jk