Please help me name this fault (s)

ninemaplefarm · 08-14-2011, 03:00 PM

I hope to show my girl UKC as she gets older. I am trying to put a finger on exactly what to call the hindend/topline fault on my pup. I know it is a croup issue.

Would you call it a short croup?

A steep croup?

A high set tail?

It looks like a chunk was removed from her croup area.

Also, will she grow out of it as she fills out as she didn't have it at 8 weeks..... If not, do you think it would ruin her show chances. Otherwise, she is a pretty correct little girl.

8 week photo:

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/attachment.php
attachmentid=10636&stc=1&d=1313347894

Now at 12 weeks:

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1313348220

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1313348220

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1313348220

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1313348220

Thank you in advance for any help and constructive comments! Please know I realize she is not like a speciality or even AKC Champion type of dog.....

trudy · 08-14-2011, 03:45 PM

cute pup, and I am no expert but I don't think the pics are going to help anyone give a great critique. Only the first is an actual stack and all are on an angle. Where did you get her from?? Was it a kennel that shows their dogs and did they sell you a show quality pup? I would worry more about lots of socializing, take her to some handling classes, teach her to enjoy being 'gone over' for examinations and to move nicely on leash. When she is old enough to show have the people running the handling classes or her breeder help you to enter a local show, and try it. Puppies are given lots of leaway, as long as she is well behaved, can be silly and jump a bit to play,the judge and others will help, and then better pics will help give you a better idea of what you have. Love her lots, she is pretty

ninemaplefarm · 08-14-2011, 06:37 PM

Ok, thanks Trudy for your feedback! I appreciate it!!

Yeah, I didn't want to stack her in the other pictures so people could get a better idea of exactly what I was talking about with her croup!!!

She starts handling class this week (was supposed to start last week but we couldn't make it). :-)

BlackthornGSD · 08-14-2011, 06:43 PM

To evaluate the topline from pictures, the camera angle needs to be straight on--pretty much at the same level as the dog's back.

ninemaplefarm · 08-14-2011, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackthornGSD

To evaluate the topline from pictures, the camera angle needs to be straight on--pretty much at the same level as the dog's back.

Oh, ok...sorry. I will work on that. I just thought the photos showed her croup issue ok when she was standing naturally without being manipulated.

Maybe it is just a puppy stage or maybe she has a short, steep croup? I don't know! LOL

I guess the breed handling instructor will be able to give me an idea as she has shown GSD to UKC and AKC Championships before even though that is not her main breed......

I was just hoping other GSD owners on the forum might have seen similar conformation and would be able to comment.

**lhczth** · 08-14-2011, 07:36 PM

Her croup is short, but better photos would help us evaluate her better.

selzer · 08-14-2011, 07:52 PM

not constructive, but that collar is definitely her color! Great looking puppy.

AgileGSD · 08-14-2011, 08:04 PM

Like everyone said, it's hard to tell from these photos but it looks to me that she has a steep croup. IME it's unlikely she'll outgrow it but it shouldn't hold her back from being shown.

ninemaplefarm · 08-14-2011, 09:13 PM

Ok. Thank you again, guys, for the feedback! I was thinking short, steep croup as well but what the heck do I know!! Glad to get some confirmation on her croup issue.....

Agile..SO nice to hear that it won't hold her back too much from being able to be shown as she has a lot of other really good points about her.

Selzer, thanks for the collar comment!! hahahaha

08-14-2011, 03:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
ninemaplefarm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 222	Please help me name this fault (s) I hope to show my girl UKC as she gets older. I am trying to put a finger on exactly what to call the hindend/topline fault on my pup. I know it is a croup issue. Would you call it a short croup? A steep croup? A high set tail? It looks like a chunk was removed from her croup area. Also, will she grow out of it as she fills out as she didn't have it at 8 weeks..... If not, do you think it would ruin her show chances. Otherwise, she is a pretty correct little girl. 8 week photo: http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/attachment.php attachmentid=10636&stc=1&d=1313347894 Now at 12 weeks: http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1313348220 http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1313348220 http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1313348220 http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1&d=1313348220 Thank you in advance for any help and constructive comments! Please know I realize she is not like a speciality or even AKC Champion type of dog..... Attached Thumbnails

08-14-2011, 06:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
BlackthornGSD Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 1,094	To evaluate the topline from pictures, the camera angle needs to be straight on--pretty much at the same level as the dog's back. __________________ Christine Blackthorn Working German Shepherds

08-14-2011, 07:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,695	Her croup is short, but better photos would help us evaluate her better. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

08-14-2011, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	not constructive, but that collar is definitely her color! Great looking puppy. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear

08-14-2011, 03:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
trudy Master Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 920	cute pup, and I am no expert but I don't think the pics are going to help anyone give a great critique. Only the first is an actual stack and all are on an angle. Where did you get her from?? Was it a kennel that shows their dogs and did they sell you a show quality pup? I would worry more about lots of socializing, take her to some handling classes, teach her to enjoy being 'gone over' for examinations and to move nicely on leash. When she is old enough to show have the people running the handling classes or her breeder help you to enter a local show, and try it. Puppies are given lots of leaway, as long as she is well behaved, can be silly and jump a bit to play,the judge and others will help, and then better pics will help give you a better idea of what you have. Love her lots, she is pretty

08-14-2011, 06:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
ninemaplefarm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 222	Ok, thanks Trudy for your feedback! I appreciate it!! Yeah, I didn't want to stack her in the other pictures so people could get a better idea of exactly what I was talking about with her croup!!! She starts handling class this week (was supposed to start last week but we couldn't make it). :-)

08-14-2011, 08:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
AgileGSD Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,645	Like everyone said, it's hard to tell from these photos but it looks to me that she has a steep croup. IME it's unlikely she'll outgrow it but it shouldn't hold her back from being shown.

08-14-2011, 09:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
ninemaplefarm Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 222	Ok. Thank you again, guys, for the feedback! I was thinking short, steep croup as well but what the heck do I know!! Glad to get some confirmation on her croup issue..... Agile..SO nice to hear that it won't hold her back too much from being able to be shown as she has a lot of other really good points about her. Selzer, thanks for the collar comment!! hahahaha

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