Czech-line breeder in Western Canada?

Vancouver · 11-27-2011, 07:54 PM

Hello,

My husband is strangely obsessed with the Czech line of GSDs. I have had some excellent recommendations from people about breeders, but none of them breed exclusively Czech lines.

I've done a bit of research into the Czech lines, and I think that they're more dog than we're looking for. We're looking for a pet primarily (although the dog will go to work with my spouse he won't have a 'job' to do) and live in an apartment. We're prepared to spend a lot of time and effort making sure that the dog gets enough exercise, but I think that medium-drive, medium-energy would be the best match.

Does anyone know anything about this breeder in Vancouver? The sire is from Canczech, which I believe has a pretty good record of producing serious working dogs.
Puppies: Czech Working Puppies-Vancouver, BC (id: 143040) - German Shepherd Dog

I'm sort of hoping to have a decent breeder assess our situation and tell me if a Czech dog is right for us, or if we ought to stick to one of the more traditionally laid-back lines.

Thanks.

**JakodaCD OA** · 11-28-2011, 07:38 AM

Why is obsessed with czech lines? looks? abilities? has he ever been around any czech dogs? Just curious.

I don't know anything about the breeder listed. Some czech dogs aren't for the faint of heart.

My female has alot of czech in her with some DDR, if you lived closer I'd let you experience a "day in the life of Masi" LOL..it may change his mind

)

I am geographically challenged, but have you checked out Vom Banach? Beautiful dogs and she may have one to fit what your looking for. Not all of them are wind up energizer bunnies

Hoping someone else will chime in and give you some recommendations in your area.
Good luck in your search

LaRen616 · 11-28-2011, 07:45 AM

I dont have a 100% Czech puppy but my puppy is Czech/West German Working line and she's great. Very smart puppy, she figures things out quickly, very friendly, energetic and an escape artist. Not mouthy and loves to cuddle.

elisabeth_00117 · 11-28-2011, 10:02 AM

My 7.5 month old is half Czech and then her sire is a mix of DDR and WG working lines and she is A LOT of dog. Definitely NOT a "pet dog" as she needs a job to do.

Now, my pup is HIGH energy, HIGH drive with medium to low (closer to low) thresholds. She is perfect for sport and I think would do well working in out and about in the world as a K9 officer or a Narc dog or the like, but she definitely would not do well in a home with a walk or two a day or just some ball play.

This is just my experience with these lines and to be honest, I wanted this type of puppy/dog and not all the pups in her litter were like this, but they still were "more dog" than others I have seen - they all went to experience GSD or working homes.

I live in an apartment as well BUT my dogs are not "home bodies" as we attend training classes/schH a few times per week and are out everyday training or hiking or doing something. It is VERY RARE that they are relaxing in the house during the day for more than a few hours at a time.

Zefra does have a hard time settling but it is getting better as she gets older. She always has to be doing something or have something in her mouth. She is also very snappy and when she gets excited (which is pretty much all the time... LMAO) she air snaps and she is also a jumper... lol. At 7 months she is still kinda mouthy and will latch on to your arm and "carry you around" while wiggling her whole body when she gets excited, she just can't contain her excitment usually.. lol.

The Czech breeder you listed, I am not familar with but I can give you some recommendations if you like to PM me - I have a few on my list who I would love a dog from.

This is my girl:

Wild Winds Zephyr of Cognac - German Shepherd Dog

And I have to laugh at this photo. It was taken this weekend after about an hour of ball play and some training that we did on vacation.

Stark is on the left, Hunter a WG working line pup from strong working lines in the middle who is about 1 month younger than my female and then there is Zefra on the right... totally shows all their personalities in one photo.... lol.

LaRen616 · 11-28-2011, 10:11 AM

Elizabeth ~ Zefra looks great! What a beautiful girl, she's getting so big!

elisabeth_00117 · 11-28-2011, 10:16 AM

Thanks Lauren.

Zefra is actually on the smaller size which is nice. Her playmate Hunter (middle in the photo) who is 1 month younger but male, is a little bigger than her, she is a sturdy girl though.

Time flies, she is growing up!

LaRen616 · 11-28-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by elisabeth_00117

Thanks Lauren.

Zefra is actually on the smaller size which is nice. Her playmate Hunter (middle in the photo) who is 1 month younger but male, is a little bigger than her, she is a sturdy girl though.

Time flies, she is growing up!

She looks alot bigger than Malice, of course there is a 2 month difference in age between them.

I've noticed Malice is starting to have a hard time settling, she can just go go go, she is calm in the house but she has been asking to go outside more to run. She cant catch Sinister yet but she has alot more energy than him and can run circles around him. A funny thing she does is cry while chasing him, she cries because she cant catch him.

She's an awesome little girl, full of personality, very confident, nothing phases her. I think this is a great combo (Czech/West German Working) and will probably get another pup with that mix in the future.

TtailSteve · 12-28-2011, 11:28 AM

My 6 yo Lexi Von Imbrez is full Chech....all Chech in her pedigree, all working dogs including her mom and father. Lexi is extremely driven and high energy. She is very stable, super friendly, and great in new situations and especially great with kids. (she will lick them to death and my 4 yo nice was pulling her ears all Christmas day and she waged her tail and licked her the whole time). This dog can also take down a 225lb man in a full run and recall on command.

I personally love the Chech lines. However, high drive does not begin to describe these dogs. We have a large yard and 2 GSDs so she has a playmate. We also are experienced gsd owners If we let her she would run until she passed out literally. The trainer we work with that has 30 years experience training police K9s says he has never seen a dog so focused and so driven.

My wife is home all day and Lexi has several "jobs". She must have multiple tasks and be worked with daily.

She's a great dog and I will always have a Chech dog. However, you really need to understand the drive and activity level of most Chech lines.

Steve

elisabeth_00117 · 12-28-2011, 11:41 AM

Steve, I would love to see a pedigree on your Lexi. You can post it here or PM me if you feel comfortable sharing that information.

carmspack · 12-28-2011, 02:24 PM

check the romance - get the reality -- make the trip and spend the day , go to a trial and see the dogs , contact other breeders - owners etc. Primary importance is a dog who will be able to adapt to what you can provide them. You live in an apartment which has limitations on outdoor exposure . Your dog can accompany your husband to work but then what happens , the dogs sits in a truck all day or in an office / shop .
Get the dog that suits your lifestyle .

11-27-2011, 07:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Vancouver New Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7	Czech-line breeder in Western Canada? Hello, My husband is strangely obsessed with the Czech line of GSDs. I have had some excellent recommendations from people about breeders, but none of them breed exclusively Czech lines. I've done a bit of research into the Czech lines, and I think that they're more dog than we're looking for. We're looking for a pet primarily (although the dog will go to work with my spouse he won't have a 'job' to do) and live in an apartment. We're prepared to spend a lot of time and effort making sure that the dog gets enough exercise, but I think that medium-drive, medium-energy would be the best match. Does anyone know anything about this breeder in Vancouver? The sire is from Canczech, which I believe has a pretty good record of producing serious working dogs. Puppies: Czech Working Puppies-Vancouver, BC (id: 143040) - German Shepherd Dog I'm sort of hoping to have a decent breeder assess our situation and tell me if a Czech dog is right for us, or if we ought to stick to one of the more traditionally laid-back lines. Thanks.

11-28-2011, 07:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 14,237	Why is obsessed with czech lines? looks? abilities? has he ever been around any czech dogs? Just curious. I don't know anything about the breeder listed. Some czech dogs aren't for the faint of heart. My female has alot of czech in her with some DDR, if you lived closer I'd let you experience a "day in the life of Masi" LOL..it may change his mind) I am geographically challenged, but have you checked out Vom Banach? Beautiful dogs and she may have one to fit what your looking for. Not all of them are wind up energizer bunnies Hoping someone else will chime in and give you some recommendations in your area. Good luck in your search __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

11-28-2011, 07:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
LaRen616 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 10,582	I dont have a 100% Czech puppy but my puppy is Czech/West German Working line and she's great. Very smart puppy, she figures things out quickly, very friendly, energetic and an escape artist. Not mouthy and loves to cuddle. __________________ ~ Sinister 3 yr old black male GSD 3.11.09 ~ Malice 9 mth old black female GSD 6.19.11 Cats: Chaos, Monster, Wicked

11-28-2011, 10:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
elisabeth_00117 Crowned Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Posts: 7,250	My 7.5 month old is half Czech and then her sire is a mix of DDR and WG working lines and she is A LOT of dog. Definitely NOT a "pet dog" as she needs a job to do. Now, my pup is HIGH energy, HIGH drive with medium to low (closer to low) thresholds. She is perfect for sport and I think would do well working in out and about in the world as a K9 officer or a Narc dog or the like, but she definitely would not do well in a home with a walk or two a day or just some ball play. This is just my experience with these lines and to be honest, I wanted this type of puppy/dog and not all the pups in her litter were like this, but they still were "more dog" than others I have seen - they all went to experience GSD or working homes. I live in an apartment as well BUT my dogs are not "home bodies" as we attend training classes/schH a few times per week and are out everyday training or hiking or doing something. It is VERY RARE that they are relaxing in the house during the day for more than a few hours at a time. Zefra does have a hard time settling but it is getting better as she gets older. She always has to be doing something or have something in her mouth. She is also very snappy and when she gets excited (which is pretty much all the time... LMAO) she air snaps and she is also a jumper... lol. At 7 months she is still kinda mouthy and will latch on to your arm and "carry you around" while wiggling her whole body when she gets excited, she just can't contain her excitment usually.. lol. The Czech breeder you listed, I am not familar with but I can give you some recommendations if you like to PM me - I have a few on my list who I would love a dog from. This is my girl: Wild Winds Zephyr of Cognac - German Shepherd Dog And I have to laugh at this photo. It was taken this weekend after about an hour of ball play and some training that we did on vacation. Stark is on the left, Hunter a WG working line pup from strong working lines in the middle who is about 1 month younger than my female and then there is Zefra on the right... totally shows all their personalities in one photo.... lol. __________________ Battleborn Hundesport Wild Winds Archangel Raphael "Stark", HIC (2009-04-10) Wild Winds Zephyr "Zefra" (2011-04-15) *Beau* 03/08/97 to 06/07/10

11-28-2011, 10:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
LaRen616 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 10,582	Elizabeth ~ Zefra looks great! What a beautiful girl, she's getting so big! __________________ ~ Sinister 3 yr old black male GSD 3.11.09 ~ Malice 9 mth old black female GSD 6.19.11 Cats: Chaos, Monster, Wicked

11-28-2011, 10:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
elisabeth_00117 Crowned Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Posts: 7,250	Thanks Lauren. Zefra is actually on the smaller size which is nice. Her playmate Hunter (middle in the photo) who is 1 month younger but male, is a little bigger than her, she is a sturdy girl though. Time flies, she is growing up! __________________ Battleborn Hundesport Wild Winds Archangel Raphael "Stark", HIC (2009-04-10) Wild Winds Zephyr "Zefra" (2011-04-15) *Beau* 03/08/97 to 06/07/10

12-28-2011, 11:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
TtailSteve New Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 4	My 6 yo Lexi Von Imbrez is full Chech....all Chech in her pedigree, all working dogs including her mom and father. Lexi is extremely driven and high energy. She is very stable, super friendly, and great in new situations and especially great with kids. (she will lick them to death and my 4 yo nice was pulling her ears all Christmas day and she waged her tail and licked her the whole time). This dog can also take down a 225lb man in a full run and recall on command. I personally love the Chech lines. However, high drive does not begin to describe these dogs. We have a large yard and 2 GSDs so she has a playmate. We also are experienced gsd owners If we let her she would run until she passed out literally. The trainer we work with that has 30 years experience training police K9s says he has never seen a dog so focused and so driven. My wife is home all day and Lexi has several "jobs". She must have multiple tasks and be worked with daily. She's a great dog and I will always have a Chech dog. However, you really need to understand the drive and activity level of most Chech lines. Steve

12-28-2011, 11:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
elisabeth_00117 Crowned Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Posts: 7,250	Steve, I would love to see a pedigree on your Lexi. You can post it here or PM me if you feel comfortable sharing that information. __________________ Battleborn Hundesport Wild Winds Archangel Raphael "Stark", HIC (2009-04-10) Wild Winds Zephyr "Zefra" (2011-04-15) *Beau* 03/08/97 to 06/07/10

12-28-2011, 02:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
carmspack Knighted Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ontario - Posts: 3,324	check the romance - get the reality -- make the trip and spend the day , go to a trial and see the dogs , contact other breeders - owners etc. Primary importance is a dog who will be able to adapt to what you can provide them. You live in an apartment which has limitations on outdoor exposure . Your dog can accompany your husband to work but then what happens , the dogs sits in a truck all day or in an office / shop . Get the dog that suits your lifestyle .

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