German GSD breeders?

[LissG]

Does anyone know of any good German Shepherd breeders over in Germany?

[LissG]

I should add some info lol....I'm looking to buy a male German Shepherd puppy from Germany. I found a breeder over there I've been talking to but I don't know...I've asked them if I can put a deposit down for a puppy (the puppies will be born sometime within the next 2 weeks), but they won't accept a deposit. They told me that they don't want to take a deposit because they don't know if a male will be born, and there is a high demand for their puppies and don't know if there will be enough. Is that normal for a breeder? I never bought a puppy before so I don't know.

[wolfstraum]

If you are not a known quantity and contact a "top" breeder out of the blue...you are not likely to be sent anything other than the last pick puppy...seen it happen a few times now...what are you looking for? a showline or working line? and are you planning to get involved in showing/sport?

Lee

[dawnandjr]

Can I ask why you are getting one from Germany? Reasoning, preferences, etc.

[asja]

Show or working lines? Can you speak any German? Are you on a list for a puppy? How much do they want to charge you? Because the suggested price in Germany is 600-800 Euros for a puppy, and if they tell you more than that, they are taking advantage of you. There are breeders and puppies everywhere in Germany. Were you planning on having the puppy shipped or going to get him yourself? I never paid a deposit, but told the breeders what I wanted. In one case, I told the breeders what I wanted, and they contacted me six months later with the perfect dog.

Here's the SV magazine. Scroll down to Verkaufe, those are mostly puppy ads (Welpen).
http://www.schaeferhunde.de/site/fil...inanzeigen.pdf

[wolfstraum]

Between cost of puppy, transport to airport, SV transfer, airfreight, fees at airports, cost of exchanging money, transfer fees via a foreign exchange broker (cheaper than bank!) - gas to go to pick up pup (because of temperatures, ie too hot in most cities, pup flew into Toronto), I ended up with over $2600 for a WL puppy....maybe even more if I sat down and counted every single nickle!

If pup had flown into Newark then shipped to my city, add another nearly 700 euro to Gradlyn's price.

And if flying into most US cities, where there is no direct flight from Frankfort, you need to add using a Customs Broker (plus another $225- 300)...so you are going to spend anywhere from $2500 - 3000 to get that E600 puppy in your arms.....

There are several very very nice reputable showline breeders here in the States where you can get a reasonably priced companion pup - same with working lines.

Lee

[LissG]

I didn't know there was a difference between working/show :-\. I was looking for a German GSD because I've been told by many that they tend to be healthier, live longer, and genetically better then the American dogs because of Germany's strict breeding standards. I know there's no guarantee on any dog, but I thought it might give me a better chance at getting a pup that won't have so many health issues. I'm looking for a dog who can go with us everywhere and really be like my kid lol. I want a dog who will be a good guard dog but not viscious, a dog who can go on trips with us (like hiking, camping), be trained, loyal, smart, and have a long happy life. I know that's asking alot .
I do speak some German, but the breeders I've spoke with can speak English pretty well so I lucked out . The price is 700 Euros, and the little guy will fly from Frankfurt to Philadelphia via Pet Air. I'm not on a waitlist, the breeders just said that they will let me know when the litter is born, which should be within 2 weeks.

[LissG]

And thanks for the link! Wow I didn't realize they're so many!!

[asja]

Originally Posted by wolfstraum

Between cost of puppy, transport to airport, SV transfer, airfreight, fees at airports, cost of exchanging money, transfer fees via a foreign exchange broker (cheaper than bank!) - gas to go to pick up pup (because of temperatures, ie too hot in most cities, pup flew into Toronto), I ended up with over $2600 for a WL puppy....maybe even more if I sat down and counted every single nickle!

If pup had flown into Newark then shipped to my city, add another nearly 700 euro to Gradlyn's price.

And if flying into most US cities, where there is no direct flight from Frankfort, you need to add using a Customs Broker (plus another $225- 300)...so you are going to spend anywhere from $2500 - 3000 to get that E600 puppy in your arms.....

There are several very very nice reputable showline breeders here in the States where you can get a reasonably priced companion pup - same with working lines.

Lee

You could have flown there, picked up your puppy, flown back with puppy (or dog) as baggage for half that price. I've done it. Plus that way you meet the breeder and decide if you really like them or not. I also love to travel and just use that as an excuse.

[wolfstraum]

yes - probably - but cannot get away to go...have dogs at home, no one to watch them, no vacation from work - add in the cost of losing pay, then travel in Germany....kennel not near the airport....

Lee