Opinions on this litter??

golfbum · 10-15-2010, 12:59 AM

I would like your honest thoughts on what these lines look like, and what I should expect out of the litter? We are looking at possibly getting a boy from this litter, we have met the mom and she seems great, we have also met 2 two dogs from same lines (half borther and sister) and they are great.

Sire:Nanook Mir Wachter vom Kanas - German shepherd dog

Dam:5 gen. pedigree for Nakita vom - German shepherd dog

Dont be shy! Thanks everyone!

Emoore · 10-15-2010, 10:02 AM

Personally I'm not a huge fan of the fact that they're breeding an un-titled bitch out of un-titled parents. Why do the bitch and her parents not at least have a CD or BH?

kleinenHain · 10-15-2010, 10:10 AM

I agree, and where are the hip ratings?

golfbum · 10-15-2010, 05:49 PM

Im new to this, we bought our first dog (GSD) a year ago, she too was from untiitled parents and she is a joy. We have worked with a trainer very hard this past year. Im sure we have not got everything right along the way but it has been a blast. Our female has completed her CGC at eight months and is a perfect companion. We take her everywhere and she is joy to have around.

This breeding is a new breeder to us but apparently has been doing it for over 20 years. Our trainer has one of her dogs and he is amazing. He is a sable which would not be my wifes first pick, but he is a joy to be around and has breezed thru some SCH training and is currently a service dog as well. I know the Grand Sire to this litter has ofa hips rated excellent and our trainer has told us that the sire to this litter has good hips (seen x-rays). The dam seems like a great dog, again our trainer has told us her hips are good, she got one of her pups from her last litter. That puppy is a neat dog (different sire). I have spent alot of time around our trainers dogs and they are amazing. I just dont know alot about looking at pedigrees...... Im not set on this litter, but not having titled parents will not stop me from getting a dog. We will love our dog and it will be part of our family but most likely will not be invovled with any dog sports other then for fun for both of us. Thanks for your comments and keep any coming that you may have! Thanks again

Jessiewessie99 · 10-15-2010, 05:52 PM

No titles or hip testing can and should be a huge factor when getting a puppy from a breeder.

golfbum · 10-15-2010, 05:59 PM

I will double check on the hips for sure! Thank you.

The title thing I personally don't get but I understand why some think it is so important. Watching videos on youtube has really led me to feeling like SCH titles are not all that it is cracked up to be, as some of the dogs that pass look like they should not! Thanks though for your thoughts, as they are always good things to keep in mind!

Catu · 10-15-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by golfbum

The dam seems like a great dog, again our trainer has told us her hips are good, she got one of her pups from her last litter. That puppy is a neat dog (different sire). I have spent alot of time around our trainers dogs and they are amazing.

So this female who is only a bit over two years old has already had another litter, or I understood it wrong?

golfbum · 10-15-2010, 06:38 PM

I mis spoke you understood what I typed. Sorry. Same dad different mom.

dawnandjr · 10-15-2010, 07:32 PM

The pedigrees on these two dogs are very impressive. Both dogs were born in 2008, so if they are OFA'd, the results may not be in yet. Not everyone does the xrays right at 24 months. Also, not too many dogs get titles before two years of age, especially if you are doing SCHH with them. The work required can be very demanding on the body and most like them to mature before they are worked too hard.

The sire line is east german and has some very well known dogs in the pedigree. The dams line is west german and also has some very impressive dogs. These dogs are just two years old and are probably being bred to see what they will produce. IF they are coming from someone that has been breeding for several years and has produced several titled dogs in their breeding program (and also has hip/elbows on those dogs done), I wouldnt hesitate to get a pup from this litter.
Titles arent the be-all end-all. They prove working ability and ability to work under pressure. It is quite possible both dogs are being trained, just have not earned a title yet due to their young age. Actually the comments for Nanook state he is a medical alert dog and trained for that.
The pups should be great working dogs, lots of toy/prey/food drive. Will probably do fine in any venue/sport. Probably get the blanket back/solid black/sable colors.

onyx'girl · 10-15-2010, 07:40 PM

Maybe they should let the dogs mature before breeding them...at least wait til the OFA's are produced.

10-15-2010, 12:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
golfbum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 130	Opinions on this litter?? I would like your honest thoughts on what these lines look like, and what I should expect out of the litter? We are looking at possibly getting a boy from this litter, we have met the mom and she seems great, we have also met 2 two dogs from same lines (half borther and sister) and they are great. Sire:Nanook Mir Wachter vom Kanas - German shepherd dog Dam:5 gen. pedigree for Nakita vom - German shepherd dog Dont be shy! Thanks everyone!

10-15-2010, 10:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,214	Personally I'm not a huge fan of the fact that they're breeding an un-titled bitch out of un-titled parents. Why do the bitch and her parents not at least have a CD or BH? __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010

10-15-2010, 10:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
kleinenHain Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,941	I agree, and where are the hip ratings? __________________ CGC Evaluator/ Free testing for Rescue dogs Klenien Hain http://kleinenhain.weebly.com/ U-CD Nomex vom Gebirgshaus SAR,BH,TD-2,VCD2,RAE,CDX,MXJ,AX,VER,NAP,NJP,CGC ( Retired ) Enzo z Blitz vom Kleinen Hain CGC NA,NAJ,OA,OAJ,AX,BN,CD

10-15-2010, 05:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jessiewessie99 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lakewod, CA Posts: 6,807	No titles or hip testing can and should be a huge factor when getting a puppy from a breeder. __________________ Jessica-Shelter Volunteer Molly-GSD ✔ Certified Ninja Dog Tanner-GSD ✔ Certified Lovebug RIP: Max & Simba "No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible."-George Chakiris, as said by Agent Derek Mogan

10-15-2010, 07:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
dawnandjr Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Macedon, NY Posts: 1,054	The pedigrees on these two dogs are very impressive. Both dogs were born in 2008, so if they are OFA'd, the results may not be in yet. Not everyone does the xrays right at 24 months. Also, not too many dogs get titles before two years of age, especially if you are doing SCHH with them. The work required can be very demanding on the body and most like them to mature before they are worked too hard. The sire line is east german and has some very well known dogs in the pedigree. The dams line is west german and also has some very impressive dogs. These dogs are just two years old and are probably being bred to see what they will produce. IF they are coming from someone that has been breeding for several years and has produced several titled dogs in their breeding program (and also has hip/elbows on those dogs done), I wouldnt hesitate to get a pup from this litter. Titles arent the be-all end-all. They prove working ability and ability to work under pressure. It is quite possible both dogs are being trained, just have not earned a title yet due to their young age. Actually the comments for Nanook state he is a medical alert dog and trained for that. The pups should be great working dogs, lots of toy/prey/food drive. Will probably do fine in any venue/sport. Probably get the blanket back/solid black/sable colors. __________________ Dawn Brogan German Shepherd Yoko von der Burg Austerlitz pedigree information http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...html?id=713938

10-15-2010, 05:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
golfbum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 130	Im new to this, we bought our first dog (GSD) a year ago, she too was from untiitled parents and she is a joy. We have worked with a trainer very hard this past year. Im sure we have not got everything right along the way but it has been a blast. Our female has completed her CGC at eight months and is a perfect companion. We take her everywhere and she is joy to have around. This breeding is a new breeder to us but apparently has been doing it for over 20 years. Our trainer has one of her dogs and he is amazing. He is a sable which would not be my wifes first pick, but he is a joy to be around and has breezed thru some SCH training and is currently a service dog as well. I know the Grand Sire to this litter has ofa hips rated excellent and our trainer has told us that the sire to this litter has good hips (seen x-rays). The dam seems like a great dog, again our trainer has told us her hips are good, she got one of her pups from her last litter. That puppy is a neat dog (different sire). I have spent alot of time around our trainers dogs and they are amazing. I just dont know alot about looking at pedigrees...... Im not set on this litter, but not having titled parents will not stop me from getting a dog. We will love our dog and it will be part of our family but most likely will not be invovled with any dog sports other then for fun for both of us. Thanks for your comments and keep any coming that you may have! Thanks again

10-15-2010, 05:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
golfbum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 130	I will double check on the hips for sure! Thank you. The title thing I personally don't get but I understand why some think it is so important. Watching videos on youtube has really led me to feeling like SCH titles are not all that it is cracked up to be, as some of the dogs that pass look like they should not! Thanks though for your thoughts, as they are always good things to keep in mind!

10-15-2010, 06:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
golfbum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 130	I mis spoke you understood what I typed. Sorry. Same dad different mom.

10-15-2010, 07:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 17,605	Maybe they should let the dogs mature before breeding them...at least wait til the OFA's are produced. __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

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