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Old 05-26-2015, 01:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey. So i'm looking for a GSD puppy that I would like to use for schutzhund and SAR. I'd be new to both activities. I've found several breeders that breed for these purposes, though many do not have a littler planned for a while. One of the breeders I was considering is Stanislaus Shepherds. I have not been able to find very much written about them in previous posts. I've had great correspondence with them already, and they look good online. Any thoughts on how this breeder would suit my needs? Thanks in advance!!
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know anything about the breeder but your comment on Schutzhund and SAR caught my eye.

This isn't the RULE but you want to make sure that the SAR teams you are interested are ok with your dog doing Schutzhund. There are a some that won't accept you dog if they have done or are currently doing bite work. My team was that way.. and I know of a few others that are as well. This isn't saying there aren't any out there that will allow both, but just keep that in mind when you are looking at a sport and working your dog.
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you are serious about these activities, I would recommend checking out some IPO clubs and/or SAR teams first. See if they can recommend good breeders for you. I cannot really comment on Stanislaus as I have no first hand experience, but my recommendation in general would be that if you are interested in a particular activity, find a breeder who does that activity and whose breeding dogs and progeny are titled/successful in that activity.
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If You are looking for an IPO dog it would also be best to look at a kennel that is showing in IPO and holds to the German standard. They are using non titled studs so it would be hard to say what the stud is capable of and what kind of pups they would throw. Like others suggested if you check out some clubs and see if it is something you are interested and ask for some help and suggestions. Most clubs are more then willing to help develop someone who has some interest. The more research you do and find out exactly what you are wanting to do with the dog will help define who would be most likely in your area to be able to get you a dog that you can work in that venue. With your first dog even though you may not get a super star you are still going to want very good potential.
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I recently came across fullforcek9, which has some puppies available now. Any thoughts on this breeder? Their dogs are all titled, but their structure kinda looks like they are show? This is from my untrained eye of course. I am in the process of meeting up with some people in the area, but wanted to get some of your thoughts also, since there's a lot of knowledgeable people on here from throughout the states. A lot of you know people that have done business or are personally connected to different breeders Thanks for the replies so far!
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Are you in MI?

Full Force K9 has working lines.
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Where are you located?

I've seen a few puppies out of full force. PM me for more information, their dogs are definitely not all titled. They use outside titled males. They are not show lines, they're all working line.
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Both SAR and IPO are very time consuming. Also the dog you would want for either, can be very different. As mentioned, make sure you are allowed to do bite sports and SAR with that particular SAR team. I was turned down by two SAR teams because of bite sports. Another accepted me, but I was too busy with bite work to go in that direction.

I would get out to IPO and SAR groups to see what you are most interested in. Then maybe start your search for a dog. If you list what area you're in, maybe someone can help with a breeder they know produces well for whatever venue you decide.
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I'm in Massachusetts. I telework the majority of the time and have a lot of free time on my hands for training and bonding. I would like to try sch first, and if that did not work out, either because the dog or handler (me) didn't care for it, move into something else, like SAR. That's certainly good advice to make sure that bite training didn't stop me from participating in other activities with the dog that I want to do. I will certainly look into that.
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It would be best if you committed to one or the other beforehand. Foundation is everything. And SAR is not a sport. It's a life and death commitment. It's serious. I highly suggest you find a club to start learning AND find a SAR group to talk too prior to looking for a breeder.
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