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ElanixPre 04-03-2014 10:11 PM

Are Hip Scores Important to you?
 
Title says the bulk of the question. When you're looking to get a puppy, do you look for a breeder that has their stock's hips tested? Do you look for OFA or Pennhip specifically? Both? And more importantly, the people here that DO require their puppy's parents to be tested... even if you see "proof" papers/certificates, etc... do you call or look online to verify the information? Or do you consider your breeder reputable enough? I just got to thinking about it today and really anybody could lie about their scores, but I do consider it important that they have them.

Courtney 04-03-2014 10:31 PM

Trust but verify.

It's very easy to look up hip & elbow scores on the OFA website. Assuming that's where X-rays were sent.

angelas 04-03-2014 10:37 PM

No OFA, no puppy for me. Hips are just the beginning followed by heart, elbows and eyes.

If the puppy's 3-5 generation pedigree isn't in the OFA with all of those I'm not interested no matter how may titles are in the pedigree or how cute the parents/puppies are. These are things I also check before I even bother contacting the breeder. If they aren't listed, I don't waste any more of my time.

PennHIP with their lack of publicly searchable database is worthless to me.

Susan_GSD_mom 04-03-2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElanixPre (Post 5320481)
Title says the bulk of the question. When you're looking to get a puppy, do you look for a breeder that has their stock's hips tested? Do you look for OFA or Pennhip specifically? Both? And more importantly, the people here that DO require their puppy's parents to be tested... even if you see "proof" papers/certificates, etc... do you call or look online to verify the information? Or do you consider your breeder reputable enough? I just got to thinking about it today and really anybody could lie about their scores, but I do consider it important that they have them.

Yes to ALL that. If you ever go through the heartbreak of seeing one of our drive-for-days, all-out all-the-time working line GSDs have to deal with the pain and crippling effect of bad HD, you will try every avenue possible to ensure that doesn't happen again. Even with the most careful, conscientious and knowledgeable breeders, it can still happen, but you are at least tipping the scales in the right direction when you do your homework before buying.

Oddly enough, the dogs I have had who were (and are) rescues have had the best hips...

Susan

Serbrider 04-04-2014 02:05 AM

My current pup is a mixed breed that showed up for free in my life. I love her to death and wouldn't have it any other way.

However, when I get to the point that I'll be looking for a sport competition dog, for either IPO or Schutzhund, I wouldn't even look further unless hips, hearts, elbows, and eyes are all tested and check out as excellent.

HD is a crippling thing, and while the dogs who are currently alive and have it (or are producing it) may be great, it is something that needs to be bred out... which is what responsible breeders are attempting to do... or should do. ;)

ETA: and yes, I would look it up on the OFA website to confirm. I don't take much at face value. Very very little. ;)

boomer11 04-04-2014 02:54 AM

I let my breeder talk and tell me all about his dogs. Then I asked for info and confirmed both dogs where akc registered and then I asked for ofa number and looked it up to make sure those were the dogs with the hip scores the breeder said. I asked for videos of his dogs working. I asked for videos of his dogs laying around the house playing. Any honest breeder worth a crap wouldn't have trouble giving you that info.

robk 04-04-2014 08:15 AM

My questions is Why would you not require evidence of no HD in breeding dogs once you have been informed about the breed?

Okin 04-04-2014 09:16 AM

I think the next GSD I get I am not only going to look at the scores of the parents but see if I can find one with proven progeny also. Mine came from parents that were both scored, one in the SV one OFA and still ended up with a unilateral mild HD. I guess it is the luck of the draw.


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