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Xyst Sin 03-12-2014 10:26 PM

Long Coat Breeders?
 
I live in Ft Myers, FL and am experienced in general obedience training of working line shepherds (have 2). Both though, are plush coats and I have a sort of long coat fever. Anyone have any suggestions for breeders of long coat shepherds?

Some details:
I am NOT interested in whites, pandas, or full black dogs.
I am willing to drive ANYWHERE in the US to pick up my dog.
Price is NOT a determining factor.
Working OR show line are both options.
I am NOT concerned with blood lines, though its always a plus.
I AM concerned with AKC registration and prefer at least Sire/Dam on site.

Just looking for a breeder someone has had experience with who produces big and beautiful long coats. Thanks!

Neko 03-12-2014 10:53 PM

As far as I know good reputable breeders don't breed for long coat. Long coat puppies just happen from both parents that have the gene.

I have a longcoat WGSL she was the only one out of the litter. So maybe look for a good breeder and than ask if their dogs ever throw a long coat? :)

gagsd 03-12-2014 11:10 PM

Maybe check into breedings by Dax van Brabantsbloed. Sire of my Fox.
He is near you and a longcoat. LCs are accepted into SV and AKC.

GSDAlphaMom 03-13-2014 08:43 AM

I know nothing about this breeder other than a friend of mine just got a puppy from him 2 weeks ago so this is not an endorsement. I haven't looked at the site other than to pull it up for you. SHe was looking for a long coat as well. THe breeder is from Germany. She was unhappy that he only sent one picture but thus far she is happy with the puppy.....2 weeks isn't enough time to know much. She is a beautiful pup.

GRUNWALD HAUS - German Shepherd Dogs

MaryD 03-13-2014 08:50 AM

Try Grunwald Haus in RI. We have two of their long coats. We are very happy with them. They have great temperaments, extremely intelligent and beautiful.

GSDAlphaMom 03-13-2014 10:17 AM

Oh yes he is in the states (RI), I see I didn't write that so it reads well. He is orginally from Germany...at least that is what my friend said and now resides in the states. :)

BriskaBoo13 03-13-2014 10:40 AM

Majic Forrest German Shepherds in Utah has some beautiful long coats with sweet tempermants. Good size dogs too. She has males and females so parents could be on site. They are WGSL. She has some WGWL too but not sure if she is breeding them yet.

Makobytes 03-14-2014 11:56 AM

Limiting yourself to longcoat breeders is not a good idea, it is far better to get a dog from a breeder striving to breed to the standards that this great breed demands and getting a longcoat puppy from proven dogs. Stay away from breeders breeding for oversized or large dogs, they lack the ability and knowledge necessary and do a lot of damage to the dogs they produce and their buyers due to their recklessness. Stock coat West German conformation lines that are breed surveyed often produce long coats that appear large and magnificent. Look up the results from past UScA and WDA Siegershows, the longcoat classes are very small but it will give you an idea who is producing quality longcoats. Even though you have no desire to show or get a working title on your dog it is advisable that you get a dog from someone who does. The founders of this breed required breeders to show and get working titles on their dogs to prove their worthiness. Pedigrees are usually only useful to those that are familiar with the dogs and what they produce but they can also show major red flags to the novice if dogs without titles or hip scores or missing ancestry appear.
Markobytes

stmcfred 03-14-2014 12:04 PM

I agree with the others, find a breeder you like that has long coats occasionally. I got my girl from Alta-Tollhaus in Michigan. Julie doesn't breed for long coats but has them pop up occasionally. In Lola's litter there were three female long coats.

Makobytes 03-14-2014 12:25 PM

Not seeing the sire on the site does not mean that it is not a good breeder. Some breeders will use another breeder's stud if that stud compliments the pairing. Having 8 studs on site would be another indication that the breeders standards are not high or they are a puppy mill. It is easy for a backyard breeder to have both parents on site. The better breeders will have one or just a few studs who have major accomplishments. I agree with you on AKC pedigrees, seeing a UKC pedigree is a major red flag that the lineage can not be proven or that the breeder has been caught falsifying AKC pedigrees and has been banned.


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