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post #1 of 3 (permalink) Old 02-24-2014, 02:15 PM Thread Starter
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To Choose or not to choose

I recently visited a breeder in Oklahoma, the kennel was top of the line. All of the GSDs were well fed, and exercised. The kennel area was clean well built and had every sign of being a well ran operation.

The only thing that I felt was a little odd, was that this breeder has two lines of puppies for sale. One of which are top of the line GSD show dogs, and on the other side he breeds GSD working dogs. Is that set up odd?

I have no doubt that the litters are not mixed, but I would think for a kennel to really prosper, and for it to develop a good reputation, the breeder should only stick with breeding only show lines or working lines and not both.

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post #2 of 3 (permalink) Old 02-24-2014, 03:03 PM
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Well, I don't know. I'm in Oklahoma. If you want to PM me the breeder, I can tell you what I may or may not know about this particular kennel.

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It's hard to say without specifics. I don't know to which kennel you're referring (although even if I did, I might not know anything about it, since I'm not in that area).

About all I can say based on this very general description is that hearing that the animals are housed in a kennel facility (which sounds like it may be a fairly large one?) and are being evaluated on whether they're "clean" and "well fed," combined with hearing that there are two different lines of dogs being produced, raises my antennae a little and makes me wonder if this is not a commercial operation.

Not all puppy mills are squalid and dirty. This blog post talks a little about modern "high-tech, clean, humane" (although personally I'd disagree about calling them "humane") mills: Redefining the Puppy Mill | Ruffly Speaking

So... that is my first instinct when someone describes to me a large, clean, "well run" kennel producing different types of dogs: I wonder if we're talking about a high-volume commercial breeder.

But it's just a suspicion. There are good breeders who house some or all of their dogs in kennel facilities. There are good breeders who produce one or two different types or breeds of dogs. So it is entirely possible that the breeder you visited is, in fact, an ethical and knowledgeable breeder.

But I wonder. The show and working communities in GSDs tend to be highly split, and in general, serious breeders have chosen their preferred type because they truly believe that it's what the breed should be. My understanding is that it is unusual (not unheard of, but unusual) for a breeder to seriously pursue and produce two different lines in this breed.

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