When a breeder with experience breeds an untitled dog, they have a REASON for doing the breeding, and a reason why the dog is not titled....and a REASON for the pairing. The untitled dog is likely to have been trained and the breeder should be knowledgeable about the dog and it's background and be able to tell you why that dog is being bred.
When someone with an untitled male, who has an untitled parent/grandparents, is buying females and just breeding...that is not responsible or knowledgable - PARTICULARLY in working lines.....in show lines, it is not as risky IMO, but in working lines, it is not "responsible breeding"....there are WAY WAY too many ways to combine two apparently decent tempered dogs and come up with nervy, fearful, aggressive progeny!
I see alot of "red flags". That does not mean every pup in the litter will grow up to be a dangerous dog - but it does mean the potential is there, and IMO pretty risky, to get a apparently cute happy puppy who turns out to be way way more than you bargined for! No matter HOW NICE THE PARENTS ARE!!!!!! And the parents are probably very happy, pleasant dogs and that is the selling point for their puppies.
I have done 3 breedings with Tom sons...including Gringo....I have seen quite a few Vito Waldwinkle dogs, own progeny, and progeny of those dogs. I have seen pups from those litters go on and be bred - both as line breedings on Tom and with other prepotent dogs in the males pedigree. I would NOT line breed on Tom like this...I don't see high drive, and happy to settle in the house after some playing ball...add to those genetics, I would NEVER add several of the lines behind the male to a dog linebred on Tom.....I probably would not even want a puppy from this litter for a sport dog even if the parents were titled...now - this is not going to be true for EVERY puppy in the litter...but at 8 weeks - even 8 months, you do NOT see the total mature character that the dog will end up with.
Find a breeder who understands the genetics behind their dogs....not a "hobby" breeder who just buys some dogs with decent pedigrees and breeds them for pets.
Get another WG Showline dog.....you will be much happier!
Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, SG Bengal, Lynx, Komet, Kira HGH & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Ziberia IPO1 ~ ATB Basha, Kougar & Kyra, Fenja, Sch3s, Cito, Sch2, Danger RH & Alice Sch1s ~Kelsey
Last edited by wolfstraum; 01-01-2014 at 10:09 AM.