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Drew Orleans 12-16-2013 08:47 PM

Braehead Puppies
Have any of you gotten your shepherd from Braehead in Mass.? I know WhiteShepherd got all 3 of her dogs from there and has good things to say about them, but I was hoping to get some other reviews.

One of my friends advised against a white, but I ensured him I did my homework. Here's what he had to say though...

"My advice is to not get a white shepherd. If you're serious about the breed look into East German and Czech working lines. Stay away from show lines if at all possible (German show lines look great but often have health problems), but DEFINITELY stay away from American lines.

Look into Schutzhund if you have local clubs available but definitely spend a **** of a lot of time on training and socializing.

You want a pup that's confident and above all what they call "clear headed." Temperament is everything with this breed.

If it were me I'd avoid white breeders. Dogs are clearly bred for the show ring and most lack Schutzhund titles. I'm not trying to piss on your selection of breeder, I'll just tell you that personally I'd look somewhere else. But it seems like you've done some research and feel confident with the breeder, so if you go through with the purchase then I hope it works out great for ya.

I think you're painting yourself in a corner having to have a white shepherd. You're not going to find any good working lines with high drives and proper temperament in white shepherds, but that's not to say you won't find a good dog. I just would say you're not getting the full essence of what a GSD is about in going that route."

alexg 12-16-2013 09:09 PM

I never knew people intentionally breed white shepherds. All my life I thought it is a genetic error...

MrsFergione 12-16-2013 10:00 PM

From what I understand, not only is it a disqualifying fault, but they are prone to genetic disorders and skin cancers that correctly colored shepherds do not tend to get. I personally would never buy or breed one.

Merciel 12-16-2013 10:05 PM

I know some nice white shepherds, but I am not sure who bred them. Braehead would be a possibility (it's the right region), but I can't say for sure that they're from that breeder; I just never asked the owners. Anyway, the ones I've seen were good family dogs. Smart, trainable, healthy, and more athletic than many of the BYB and showline dogs I've seen.

Personally I would not buy one because they do have softer temperaments and they aren't all-out working dogs, and my own personal preference is for a higher-drive animal. But I'm a pretty hardcore competition person, so your priorities may well be different as to what you want in your dog.

gsdsar 12-16-2013 10:11 PM

It is all going to depend on what you want from your future dog.

Do you want to do SchH? Obedience? Agility? Rally? Herding? Pet/companion only?

Decide what you want and then find a breeder that participates in that venue and get a puppy from them.

I have nothing against white GSD. And I give you the same advice as above. With any breeder, make sure they do health clearances hips/elbows/DM. Meet their dogs, talk to the breeder, if you like them go for it.

I will say, if you want to compete in SchH, you are unlikely to find a suitable dog from a breeder that breeds specifically white dogs. It's not impossible, just less likely. If you are looking for a solid companion....

I fostered a gorgeous white GSD many years ago. He was everything you would want in a GSD, stable, strong drives, just great. Placed him with a local PD. He excelled, had the most apprehensions 3 years in a row. But I consider him an anamoly. But many white GSD excel in other venues, rally, obedience and agility.

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Lucy Dog 12-16-2013 10:41 PM

What do you want out of the dog? What are your goals? An american line white shepherd is going to have a pretty different temperament than the east german and czech working lines like this person is recommending.

What do YOU want?

Drew Orleans 12-16-2013 10:43 PM

Mainly a pet/companion but wouldn't mind trying some fun stuff with him. Won't be competing at all though.

Want a GSD for the intelligence, loyalty and protective characteristics they have.

Drew Orleans 12-16-2013 10:48 PM

Might delve into a little Sch, or something's else. Not a main goal though.

I'll be obedience training either in a class or on my own. Mainly a companion

Lucy Dog 12-16-2013 10:52 PM

American lines are fine for what you're looking for. Working lines would also work too. They can all do obedience and be great pets.

If you're really serious about schutzhund, you're betting off going with working lines and with a breeder that participates in the sport.

Drew Orleans 12-16-2013 10:57 PM

I'm not looking to compete in SchH. Just teach him a little so he's ready if he needs to be.

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