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rlv6161 01-08-2013 11:59 PM

Solid black face west german puppy
 
Looking for a West German show line puppy with a solid black face.
I have seen several dogs with this coloring and I was wondering if anyone has puppies that have one of the parents with those markings

selzer 01-09-2013 12:12 AM

This is my girl:
SG1 Odessa von Aurelius

I think I got one of her face:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../odessa2-1.jpg

Is this what you are looking for? Or is there too much color there?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../odessa004.jpg

wolfstraum 01-09-2013 08:21 AM

SL pups are born mostly black, and the tan/red comes through as they grow....there is no way to guarantee that the face will remain black....I have seen a few with totally black faces, and their parents did not have that much black on their face...

this is a criteria no one can can even begin to guarantee.....it is really not predictable

Lee

Freestep 01-09-2013 10:44 AM

Most WGSL I see have less black on their faces than working lines, or even American show lines... some have a totally tan/red face with very little black except on the muzzle. I think it would be next to impossible to know which puppies will mature to have a blacker face, since they are born almost totally black and get lighter as they mature. But I would try to find a breeder whose dogs have blacker faces and heads, and don't suffer from color fading (some showline dogs only seem to have half a saddle).

I really like black faces too. A face that is totally black except for tan eyebrows and cheeks? Be still my heart!

Liesje 01-09-2013 11:19 AM

What Lee said. There are lots of them but impossible to predict unless you have a few generations. A solid black face can produce one that is not and vice versa.

Carriesue 01-09-2013 11:35 AM

What about and this is just me being curious... My pup is pretty dark(granted he is only four months so still a lot of time for his color to change), his dam is a solid black WL and sire is a traditional black and red WGSL(although if OP only wants a SL then this wouldn't be an option)... Is there more chance to produce a darker dog or one with a mask or still just one of those things too hard to predict? Asking on the OP's part, not trying to hijack! I would love if mine kept his mask but won't be the end of the world if he doesn't. :)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8223/8...bd9c4fa8_c.jpg
Untitled (2013-01-07 02:27:14) by snowypony, on Flickr

GsdLoverr729 01-09-2013 12:05 PM

Carrie, I think it's still just a flip of the coin thing. I know that Gatordog has a WL/WGSL cross and he has little black on his face (though if I may say so myself, he's quite a hunk).

Carriesue 01-09-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GsdLoverr729 (Post 2702361)
Carrie, I think it's still just a flip of the coin thing. I know that Gatordog has a WL/WGSL cross and he has little black on his face (though if I may say so myself, he's quite a hunk).

He is a hunk! But I don't think either his sire or dam was an all black dog. I know there are a couple here with similar mixes like mine(Stark for one, can't remember the others name) and they both have masks... Again just something I'm curious about. :)

GsdLoverr729 01-09-2013 12:41 PM

I dunno. My girl's grand-dam on sire's side was solid black. Grand sire was black/tan. Her father had the same mask as she does.

rlv6161 01-09-2013 12:51 PM

very cute. It really depends on the parents


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