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Old 01-09-2013, 08:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Black face... The mask extends all over his face/head.

Generally, this would be genetic. OP wants a WGSL pup who has a nice dark mask like Ursus, but there is no guarantee that even with two parents with good masks wil produce a pup with the same mask.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:11 PM   #22 (permalink)
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just a quick explanation- since my shepherd died I have been at this for 3 wks. Everytime I go searching I find out nothing is available, so I broaden my search for other things. I have also learned alot on the way, like solid black are mostly working lines not show- I did not know that with west german dogs
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anything helps
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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whos dog is ursus?
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:19 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Ursus was for sale at Von Lotta kennels in Atlanta, Georgia. He was sold... Well. I believe over a year ago. He is simply still on the site as a sold dog and seemed like a good example of what you're talking about. I personally ADORE those dark faces as well. Not sure if they bred him, or if they just imported him.

I know some dogs at Alta Toll-Haus have dark faces, Liesje's Nikon has a gorgeous mask and comes from them. Oher Tannen also has some studs and bitches with dark faces.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Nikon's face started pretty black but has faded some and now he was a white chin Here he is about 10 months old, with me, and his mother


And this is his face now


When I think of a solid black face I think of the picture Kymmey posted. Some dogs will keep that solid muzzle, mask, and forehead for life.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
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White chin or not, he is still STUNNING! Definitely one of my favorites on the forum lol.
I never noticed how much he lightened up... Regardless, some of the dogs Julie has/breeds have that nice black face/mask. So ya never know.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:32 PM   #28 (permalink)
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you have got what Im talking about, beautiful dog
but your saying no guarentees
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thank you so much. I will start the calling again-wow full time job looking for a reputable breeder instead of a bad one like my last. That did not take long at all
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Yes, there are no guarantees. I suggest you check out the three I said and see what you think of their dogs. Contact the breeders themselves and talk to them. I have more WGSL breeders on my own list who I believe are trustworthy, reputable breeders with good-looking dogs. But in a litter, you simply can't tell for sure at 8 weeks which pups will keep the black face/dark mask. You also can't guarantee the parents will produce a pup with one.

And, even if they do, most of the really good breeders choose your puppy for you based on which one is best for your lifestyle and will thrive with you the most.
I'm not trying to discourage you, I would LOVE for my next pup (who I'll be getting by the end of the year hopefully) to have a black face. But I know it's not a guarantee so I'm just going with a good breeder, with dogs I like the looks of and hoping for the best. (:
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