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Join Date: Dec 2012
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All I wanted was to share our good news! I think my post clearly establishes that we are BUYING/GETTING/ACQUIRING (or any other word you want to use) the dog from Carmspack, not a shelter. Sorry if the use of "adopting" offended or mislead any members here, that was not the intent. What would I gain from this, for God's sake?? That is the only expression I have ever heard when referring to welcoming a pet in one's family, in my mother tongue. Bad translation to English, my bad. Now, can we please move on?!
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Southern California
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congrats on the new pup!! I can't wait to watch him grow up!Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Denmark, Ohio
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Adopting is when you take over the legal guardianship of a child and make it one of the family. You become the parents, and in most cases the child is given your last name and shares in all aspects of life as though it were a biological child.
My sister's girls are adopted. The process of purchasing a dog from a pound, rescue, or breeder is really not comparative to that process AND money changed hands. But if you are obtaining an individual who is to become a member of the family it should not matter if the dog was purchased from a rescue or a pound or a breeder. You are taking a critter in, being responsible for it, and loving it like a family member. If you want to use the term adoption, where you got it should not matter AT ALL. It is actually a slight on breeders when people who run rescues or pounds suggest that animals from their organizations will be adopted family members, while animals purchased from a breeder will be what? Slaves? Owned livestock? Now if you buy a dog from a breeder, from a bad breeder you should not call it a rescue. A rescue ought to have been rescued at some point. Buying from a BYB may rescue the dog that you bought, but condemns many other dogs to remain in the situation because you have rewarded the abusive individual with money. So calling your BYB dog that you purchased from a BYB a rescue isn't cool. But I am sick to death of people attacking people who buy puppies from breeders with this nonsense about them not being adopted. It's AR talk and its incorrect and it is mean.
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Northern California
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FWIW, I knew what you meant when you used the word "adopted". But it is a hot button word to use around breeders, rescue people, and other hardcore dog folks. You had no way of knowing that, though, so don't worry about it.
The issue that people have with the word "adopt" is purely political in nature--rescues and shelters "adopt" out dogs. Breeders "sell" dogs. "Adoption" implies that you have a second-hand dog, or a puppy from a shelter/rescue, so if you say you "adopted" from a breeder, it's considered a slight. Likewise, saying you "bought" a dog from a rescue is not taken well by rescue folk. There's a long history behind all this, which would probably bore you. Suffice to say, it's better to use a word like "acquired", which is fairly neutral. Sorry that you got jumped on for using the wrong word!Whether you "buy" or "adopt" a pup, it's essentially the same thing--you are bringing a dog into your household to be part of your family--but the meanings of the words have been slightly politicized, and breeders and rescue folks don't always get along with each other, so there you go. Most "normal" people won't bat an eye to either word.Congratulations on your puppy, and I am jealous! Quote:
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,683
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It's not just dog folks, I've heard the same stuff from bird people. I have to admit I was a bit confused at the title, also. I'm sure you're going to be happy with whichever pup you get! Genetic obedience rocks! Those are some seriously gorgeous pups.
Do you have a name picked out? Is "Rush" the name? Please update with pics, etc. once you get your pup home.
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