thanks everyone and Saphire - there is one more going to a forum member , possibly one held back for service .
Here is the pedigree ---- Sire -- Carmspack Sumo , brother to Laurel's Journey Carmspack Sumo
mentioned more than once in either the genetic obedience thread or some herding thread and in another thread which shows his near relative (connection is Bugati) black dog Wilson son of a Geefacker female -- here is Sumo at about 9 weeks ? Carmspack Sumo & Vinny
- to this day he is true to the heavy Wurtemburger influence in his pedigree -- low stationed, broad , legs like trees - but he can move ! high threshold , genetic obedience -- no issues .
It was a pleasure to meet Saphire and her lovely teen children . To begin with I showed them York -- who is Stan Carmspack Sumo & Vinny
and Fancy Carmspack Fancy
York is the same combination as if you were to combine Sue Coutts' Blast and Elle - KIRA on her Birch-Bark Hill: 12/30/12 - 1/6/13
I showed my guests York's genetic obedience . They can speak to what they saw .
Guests that visited on Saturday had a meeting with York also. In that visit -- "uncle" Como had cleared his almost 6 foot pen in a lateral jump because he has spring loaded legs ! big boy , light as a feather -- came charging around the corner and met with company and young York. Como was outstanding in his social meeting with York and York who is knee high to him did not startle, tuck tail, yipe or alarm . For a brief moment they "met" ran a bit - and then I contained things , quietly in a conversational tone asked York to go in to his kennel , which he did immediately on his own without my having to gather him up (catch) . Then Como ran the circle around the pen and York ran around the inside of the pen. The moment I turned and walked away Como connected with me and I put him in his crate. At no time was pressure or threat perceived by York . Then he came out and we did some more.
Stan is the sire of Nickolas .
The Saphire pups sire is Sumo and the Dam is Chiba Parchimer Land who is the dam of Nickolas Chiba vom Parchimer Land
genetic obedience on these pups -- yes .
already demonstrated .
pups relaxed and hanging out with company present - socializing with everyone - I ask them Come , 5 turned around , left their food , or the young son who was hitting all the pups "sweet spots" and came to me to sit at my feet looking up. No bribe , treat , appreciation -- good boys -yes.
So there is a responsiblity in finding the right dog for each and every person . In this case I knew there is a future for SAR -- so I specifically chose the pup with high hunt . Will already retrieve and be very persistent when the object is out of view . Uses nose -- lay beside Saphire and you could hear him sniffing the stone wall from across the room - displayed this behaviour more than once - investigates through scent.
all dogs are raw fed - raw chicken carcass was provided and they ate in the room .
They are weaning - mother dog has been absent since Friday night -- pups are certainly not stressed by one bit .
The other thing I showed with York who is a burst of energy when you engage him in play - work -- but in the house in the x-pen you would not know there was a pup in the house . The maniac behaviour in the oft used thread "so you want a high drive pup" does not have to be the norm for a working dog. York is going to be a certified Service dog for a Veteran with PTSD - leaving me late next week - wah -- I get attached .. but I could not wish for a better person than the one he will be going to !