To Buy or Not to Buy

Apollo · 12-10-2012, 08:44 AM

Hello all! I am posting this on behalf of a friend who is considering buying not 1 but 2 puppies...German Shepherds. She has not experience with the breed and this is the breeder she is considering. BACG HOME PAGE - BELLY ACRES CRITTERS (BACG) SOUTHEASTERN OHIO

I gave her my honest opinion and she is pretty stubborn. I left the convo with telling her to do her due diligence and research before making this commitment. I also told her to do her self a favor and only get 1 puppy either way.

I told her to come to this site and read the Breeder section and possibly join and post. All she can do is learn. So I thought that I would post this and get some feedback and hopefully she will read and heed the advice given...positive and negative. Thanks for your help!!!

Apollo · 12-10-2012, 08:49 AM

FYI this is not for me! I have 3 and I am not looking to add more!

Kyleigh · 12-10-2012, 08:51 AM

There is a sticky in here in the puppy section on why you should never get two puppies at once, especially littermates.

There is a ton of information in there ...

**jocoyn** · 12-10-2012, 08:52 AM

Oh dear God.

No no no to two puppies! Did I say NO! Maybe you can get her to come here before she does.

And she really needs to research her choice of breeder. We are not allowed to do breeder bashing on this forum but she needs to be clear with what she is buying caveat emptor. No breed registry protects the quality of your puppy and some, like CKC will let you register a mutt as a purebred.

At least print the selection on selecting a reputable breeder and give it to her.

**JakodaCD OA** · 12-10-2012, 08:53 AM

eee gads

Hope she joins so she can see there are so many GOOD breeders out there.

First off, red flag, reputable breeders will not sell a person TWO puppies at once,

I'm assuming your friend is looking at the ones that are "discounted" for 150 bucks?
That 150 bucks may turn into hundreds if she incurrs vet bills .

Another red flag, way to many breeds on the site

It looks like most of them are chained or tied up

I would say this is a really sad way for a dog to live.

Honestly, your friend is going to do what they are going to do, I hope you can change her mind, this is not a place I would even consider getting a dog from , tho I feel bad for the dogs

**Liesje** · 12-10-2012, 09:03 AM

I would pass. I don't like the looks of *any* of their GSDs so I personally would not pursue it. Also I don't like seeing dogs tied up in piles of feces.

Apollo · 12-10-2012, 09:15 AM

Jocoy & Jakoda... I know, I had an in debt convo with her about this last night and I am hoping she at least takes the time to look on this site. I really tried to push home the point only getting 1 puppy....and more importantly to really consider a different breeder

wolfstraum · 12-10-2012, 09:26 AM

poor puppies.......

I feel badly for all pups bred by puppy mills.....unfortunately, buying pups from bad situations is enabling the person breeding them to make money and more litters...

Lee

AngelynsMom · 12-10-2012, 10:15 AM

Those photos on the page look 'ok', but I would be so afraid to get a pup that has been raised outside and already 4months old. I also thought about two! Then I read all the info on socializing, training et and even though I have a big family and would have help, I would never do it! Maybe in a couple years

TommyB681 · 12-10-2012, 10:20 AM

A friend of mine got 2 puppies (brothers) and it worked out great for him. Make sure they do their research and prepare prepare prepare

12-10-2012, 08:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Apollo Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beavercreek, Ohio Posts: 90	To Buy or Not to Buy Hello all! I am posting this on behalf of a friend who is considering buying not 1 but 2 puppies...German Shepherds. She has not experience with the breed and this is the breeder she is considering. BACG HOME PAGE - BELLY ACRES CRITTERS (BACG) SOUTHEASTERN OHIO I gave her my honest opinion and she is pretty stubborn. I left the convo with telling her to do her due diligence and research before making this commitment. I also told her to do her self a favor and only get 1 puppy either way. I told her to come to this site and read the Breeder section and possibly join and post. All she can do is learn. So I thought that I would post this and get some feedback and hopefully she will read and heed the advice given...positive and negative. Thanks for your help!!! __________________ "HEY! Boss! You gonna eat that bill jac or do i have to fight you for it!"

12-10-2012, 08:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Apollo Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beavercreek, Ohio Posts: 90	FYI this is not for me! I have 3 and I am not looking to add more! __________________ "HEY! Boss! You gonna eat that bill jac or do i have to fight you for it!"

12-10-2012, 08:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kyleigh Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,315	There is a sticky in here in the puppy section on why you should never get two puppies at once, especially littermates. There is a ton of information in there ... __________________ Marion’s Zoo-Kyleigh, London-cat, Echo-TAG, Ellie-Quaker; www.marionsquilts.com

12-10-2012, 08:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
jocoyn Zombie Queen Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 11,831	Oh dear God. No no no to two puppies! Did I say NO! Maybe you can get her to come here before she does. And she really needs to research her choice of breeder. We are not allowed to do breeder bashing on this forum but she needs to be clear with what she is buying caveat emptor. No breed registry protects the quality of your puppy and some, like CKC will let you register a mutt as a purebred. At least print the selection on selecting a reputable breeder and give it to her. __________________ Nancy www.scsarda.org Beau -NAPWDA Certified Cadaver Dog Waiting at the Bridge (italics=GSDs) (hemangiosarcoma=blue):Grim , Cyra, Toby, Rainbow, Linus, Oscar, Arlo & Waggles

12-10-2012, 08:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 17,520	eee gads Hope she joins so she can see there are so many GOOD breeders out there. First off, red flag, reputable breeders will not sell a person TWO puppies at once, I'm assuming your friend is looking at the ones that are "discounted" for 150 bucks? That 150 bucks may turn into hundreds if she incurrs vet bills . Another red flag, way to many breeds on the site It looks like most of them are chained or tied up I would say this is a really sad way for a dog to live. Honestly, your friend is going to do what they are going to do, I hope you can change her mind, this is not a place I would even consider getting a dog from , tho I feel bad for the dogs __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

12-10-2012, 09:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
Liesje Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 16,237	I would pass. I don't like the looks of any of their GSDs so I personally would not pursue it. Also I don't like seeing dogs tied up in piles of feces. __________________ Liesje & Nikon vom Blauen Horizont / Blue Horizon GSDs

12-10-2012, 09:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
Apollo Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beavercreek, Ohio Posts: 90	Jocoy & Jakoda... I know, I had an in debt convo with her about this last night and I am hoping she at least takes the time to look on this site. I really tried to push home the point only getting 1 puppy....and more importantly to really consider a different breeder __________________ "HEY! Boss! You gonna eat that bill jac or do i have to fight you for it!"

12-10-2012, 09:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 8,197	poor puppies....... I feel badly for all pups bred by puppy mills.....unfortunately, buying pups from bad situations is enabling the person breeding them to make money and more litters... Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Komet, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB~ Kougar Sch3, Kyra Sch3, Cito Sch2, Alice Sch1, Kelsey CD, Ret ~ Basha Sch3, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

12-10-2012, 10:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
AngelynsMom New Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Colchester, CT Posts: 5	Those photos on the page look 'ok', but I would be so afraid to get a pup that has been raised outside and already 4months old. I also thought about two! Then I read all the info on socializing, training et and even though I have a big family and would have help, I would never do it! Maybe in a couple years

12-10-2012, 10:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
TommyB681 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newark, DE Posts: 497	A friend of mine got 2 puppies (brothers) and it worked out great for him. Make sure they do their research and prepare prepare prepare

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