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jenniecc 12-05-2012 11:39 AM

Am I crazy?
 
I am the owner of a fear aggressive puppy that I bought at 14 weeks. He is now just shy of 10 months old and has bitten my 23 year old stepdaughter. We were told the dog was well socialized, but after communicating with the breeder shortly after purchasing him( within a month) it turns out he was not. It's a complicated situation but after working with 2 different trainers, a behaviorist and constant obedience training since we brought him home, we have decided he needs to be rehomed.

I have made the breeder aware of all these issues since we got him. She has told me that she sold his mom because my dog and another puppy had these issues although she claims the other puppy has recovered enough to adapt to family life. My beautiful boy has not and with my two children( ages 10&12- old enough to follow the rules and he has been great with them) having friends in and out of the house all the time-I can't keep everyone safe all the time. He is unpredictable with his aggression-he can seem to be ok with a person then several minutes lunge bark and snap. And now he has bitten.

I have asked the breeder I take him back and I would like a replacement puppy. I feel that she misrepresented him as being well socialized-I knew the importance of this in any dogs but shepherds especially- and that this is a genetic issue that although they didn't plan on it happening. My dog just got all the worst traits from his parents. They have refused so far to do this.

Am I wrong in feeling they should? My contract states that I have a 5 yr health guarantee that covers genetic issues that prevent the dog from living a normal life. I believe this qualifies. She has offered me another puppy at half price. I paid 2000.00 for him. Am I wrong to think she is responsible for doing more? Now I am trying to search for a good home for him, the behaviorist tells me he would fail any temperment test at a shelter. I couldn't drop him at a shelter anyway. I do love him but I can't manage his issues. I would love some feedback on whether I'm asking for too much and if anyone has had an experience with this. I have spoken to an attorney and he does believe I have a case but I hate to go that route. The dog was purchased to be a running partner for me as we'll as a family pet. His issues with both dogs and people will likely prevent that from ever happening.

Courtney 12-05-2012 11:44 AM

Really tought position your in. I do not have experience with aggressive dogs...so my only advice is to ditch the breeder you got your pup from...lessoned learned & move on. Would you really want another puppy from them anyway if they offered one for free? Genetics rule and some dogs no matter how much we socialize them will be difficult to manage.

VanBuren shepherds 12-05-2012 11:58 AM

To make the contract stand you would have to have medical proof and/or testimony from a Vet. Or a behavioral specialist.
Sounds like if the breeder sold the mother because of this problem then they are not an experienced breeder.
Granted sometimes genetic defects are not always apparent, any GSD that is bred should be of the greatest health standard and temperament or they should not be breed. Do you know what litter this was for the breeder and the dam?
I personally would not take another pup from the breeder.
Did the contract state that the dog was being sold as an excellent companion dog or something like that?
A dog that is timid or reacts out of fear is an unstable dog. It's best to protect the children. It sounds like you've sought expert advice and I would do what they say, but forget about the breeder!


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VanBuren shepherds 12-05-2012 12:01 PM

At least the breeder admitted it was a problem they've had with the litter. That's a positive!


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FrankieC 12-05-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VanBuren shepherds (Post 2647734)
At least the breeder admitted it was a problem they've had with the litter. That's a positive!


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We were told the dog was well socialized, but after communicating with the breeder shortly after purchasing him( within a month) it turns out he was not.
Full disclosure and a more proactive approach would have been far more positive and the responsible thing to do. Likewise, I would move on from this breeder.

Liesje 12-05-2012 12:10 PM

Unfortunately I've never seen a contract that guarantees temperament.

VanBuren shepherds 12-05-2012 12:12 PM

The price being $200.00 tells me that these aren't from a quality bloodline. Sometimes you get what you pay for. I know to some people $200.00 is a lot of money for a dog, but when you look for quality it will cost a lot more then that.
I find it strange that the breeder would guarantee health for 5 years! When obviously there is a problem with the bloodline. Are they even AKC? If so there are standards that need to be met.
Were you able to see any hip ratings or health records for parents? Is there a pedigree available I could look at or what kind of bloodline? Do you know the age of the parents?


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VanBuren shepherds 12-05-2012 12:13 PM

Agreed FrankieC


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Liesje 12-05-2012 12:14 PM

I read $2000. The health guarantee looks good but unfortunately I don't see how that part of the contract can be used unless the dog has a genetic medical issue causing the instability in the temperament (thyroid, seizures, etc) but it might cost you upwards of $2K just to do all those tests.

VanBuren shepherds 12-05-2012 12:18 PM

You're right I miss read. $2000.00. Yeah you should have got a pretty nice pup for that price! Sorry for trouble you've had!


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