Looking for info on PA breeder ( keystone Puppies)

[wolfstraum]

wow - if that is not a website that is used to broker Amish puppy mill pups - I will eat my hat as the old saying goes!!!! a random click on a pup - "unique gray color" - IE BLUE.....and more money than the 'normal' colors.....

the towns listed under the pups are a DEAD giveaway.....Lancaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Save some more money and get a pup from a breeder - not a puppy mill.


Lee

[Steve Mazz]

yea I'm starting to get that from everyone, Like said this would be my first dog and have never dealt with any breeders before. I live in Philadelphia and would be willing to travel an hour or even two to find a great dog. I really always loved German Shepherds and being a Police officer would love to have my own k9 at home haha. Im not looking for a show dog, or anything insanely pricey just a Healthy pup. If anybody commenting knows of a reputable breeder they could recommend I would really appreciate it.

[Jax08]

Sounds like you are looking for a working line dog? Wolfstraum in is Pittsburgh.

Here's a list of East Coast Breeders
East Coast Working Line Breeders

I don't think Ryanhaus or Von Hena C are listed.

[wolfstraum]

The going rate from a decent breeder is $1500-2000 for an 8 week old puppy.....Parents are at the very least hip certified! Usually titled, sometimes koered at the bottom end of that price....you also get the knowledge and expertise of someone who has worked dogs and can offer you references from people who have their pups and/or experienced GSD people....and sometimes your peers....I recently lost a purebred cat and wanted another one - a Bengal kitten was in the same price range as a good puppy....there are alot of expenses a good breeder will incur - and those expenses are NOT incurred by BYB/Amish puppy mills etc....

The initial price of the pup is only a drop in the bucket to what you can expect when you get a puppy with a problem....Yes, even good breeders will have a problem crop up - but the risk is much much lower than with a cheaper puppy mill pup.

Lee

[MaggieRoseLee]

Originally Posted by Steve Mazz

we are looking for a great pet and guard dog, under 1000. is really our price range. its just the two of us and we have a huge yard for a big dog

Since the spring is the best time to get a puppy in my book (that housebreaking thing is BRUTAL in the winter!) you've got some time to learn what is most important in getting any dog.

And that's how to look for and what a 'responsible' breeder actually is. Once you are able to determine that, you are well on your way to getting a wonderful puppy that's healthy and a good match for your background/experience and training skills. Since our breed is a working breed it's also giving you time to consider some type of dog training you'd like to get involved in (herding? tracking? obedience? schutzund? agility?).

Most important is for you to take some time to wander generally thru (click the links) Welcome to the GSD/FAQ's for the first time owner - German Shepherd Dog Forums and more specifically thru How to find a puppy!

I also live in PA and the area is WICKED full of puppy mills and all the nightmares that involves... they are clever though and hide what they really are with vague promises and guarantees.

Nightline - Puppy Mill Capital, USA? - YouTube

Nightline - Puppy Mill Capital, USA? - YouTube

United Against Puppy Mills

[Maraccz]

CHeck out Molly Graf @ eichenluft kennel Eichenluft German Shepherd Dogs I have an awesome working line boy from her and I am getting another in a few months. She also has some nice german showline litters from time to time