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Old 11-04-2012, 06:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am looking opinions on the below breeder/kennel and pedigree. I have never dealt with an overseas breeder and so it's all a little new. The breeder seems very nice and knowledgeable but being that she is all the way in
Germany, i have no idea. Any help would be greatly appreciated, i'm looking to get her pick of the litter. I am looking to compete in SCH/IPO at a regional/national level.

She offers SV papers, I am asking her to keep the pup til 12 weeks old, so she will give the 2nd round of shots, gives a teeth/hip/elbow/health guarantee and microchipped.

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Line-breeding for the progency of V1,INT.CH.,DT.CH.BOB Friko von Metunaj and Daily von Metunaj

Kennel is Die kostenlose Homepage mit page4 - Home and her name is Isa

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Old 11-04-2012, 06:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am not one to be commenting on pedigrees, but I would like to ask, why go overseas when there are so many great breeders/dogs here in the states that you could do the same thing with? Jst curious
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My thought is that there are great breeders here. Have a deposit on a staatsmacht litter but I came so late to the party on that, I may have to wait to the next litter which would add another 10 to 11 months on it. I am also looking for a lack or very dark sable that comes with potential for Top Sport and seems like a lot of breeders will say, "we choose based on what you're looking for, not color." Which is not a bad thing but when i am paying $1800-2500 for a puppy, I just want what i want.

I am looking for a litter that would be ready to come home in January or February and I seemed to always be 3 or 4 on the list.

This breeder is from what I researched very well respected in Germany but that doesnt always mean the same here in the US.
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A friend of mine is breeding her dark sable to another even darker sable, sport line dogs, I believe the planned sire for the litter just came in third or fourth at Nationals this weekend. Your timeline is kind of steep though. Puppies ready in January would be born in the next few weeks so yeah, most people looking for the top sport picks are already on the lists.

I like dark sables too and didn't really have trouble getting what I wanted in the US, within driving distance and $1500-$2000 budget.
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Have you seen any video's of the parents training or trialing? Or vid's of offspring of the dam or sire's other breedings to see how they are turning out?
Sometimes dogs can be "too" sporty and leak drive...very hard to cap it. Even the highest scorers should have selective breeding matches to keep the stability.
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A friend of mine is breeding her dark sable to another even darker sable, sport line dogs, I believe the planned sire for the litter just came in third or fourth at Nationals this weekend. Your timeline is kind of steep though. Puppies ready in January would be born in the next few weeks so yeah, most people looking for the top sport picks are already on the lists.

I like dark sables too and didn't really have trouble getting what I wanted in the US, within driving distance and $1500-$2000 budget.
This sounds like a great litter your friend has coming up, would you mind sharing who and what kennel??

I am looking for puppies that would be ready in January, February or even March. Seems like people make reservations 6 months to a year in advance, this is great if you are already in the world and knew these breeders but when trying to break in, sometimes you end up like me..........getting 3 or 4 on the list. And when looking for a top male prospect, it gets difficult.

This is when I expanded my search and was contacted by this breeder. I am trying to do as much research as possible but she offfers a lot of up front information and a the same guarantees as a US breeder. Also, SV papers.
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Have you seen any video's of the parents training or trialing? Or vid's of offspring of the dam or sire's other breedings to see how they are turning out?
Sometimes dogs can be "too" sporty and leak drive...very hard to cap it. Even the highest scorers should have selective breeding matches to keep the stability.
I have seen some and from what I have see i was very pleased.

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Progeny list for V1,INT.CH.,DT.CH.BOB Friko von Metunaj


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Friko von Metunaj - working-dog.eu

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If you are in that much of a hurry to get a puppy and already have a deposit on one of Stefan's puppies, why don't you ask him to import you one? Nobody is going to know what's what over there better than he does and he will import. He's one of the first people that I would look to for getting a top level sport or working dog.
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If you are in that much of a hurry to get a puppy and already have a deposit on one of Stefan's puppies, why don't you ask him to import you one? Nobody is going to know what's what over there better than he does and he will import. He's one of the first people that I would look to for getting a top level sport or working dog.
I wasn't aware they imported for clients. I will look into that. Thank you for that heads up. I only knew of Eurosport and AlpineK9.
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He knows everybody over there and who breeds what. He will import when asked.

I will say that his pups are worth waiting for though. I have one of them and the drive on this dog is out of this world and I love his build. Most of the litter, and I see most of them, has the potential for very high level training.
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