Thought on this German breeder and litter - Page 6

**gagsd** · 11-09-2012, 01:20 PM

I have met Sue and Gabor and even trained with them a few times. In my opinion, they are knowledgeable and honest and CERTAINLY have dogs owner-trained and owner-bred competing at the highest levels.
And doing well at it, if I might add.

Ace952 · 11-09-2012, 02:13 PM

here is a breeding that just took place. I have a pup from them. They work and title all of their dogs. Their dogs go to nationals and breeder puts zvv3 's on dogs from his breedings.

Line-breeding for the progency of VD Miki z Berounské basty and VD Jikra z Trucu

There are 2 are black females from this litter left.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=1840495

gEEksWag03 · 11-09-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace952

here is a breeding that just took place. I have a pup from them. They work and title all of their dogs. Their dogs go to nationals and breeder puts zvv3 's on dogs from his breedings.

Line-breeding for the progency of VD Miki z Berounské basty and VD Jikra z Trucu

Wow, very nice. The Dam is beautiful and stud is the exact body type i'm looking for. Not wirey.....Can you pm me how to contact them about this?

Ace952 · 11-09-2012, 02:45 PM

sure

gEEksWag03 · 11-11-2012, 03:32 PM

Thank you all for your help so far on my journey, I have one more that i'd like your opinion on

Line-breeding for the progency of SG Erri z Blatenskeho Zamku and ZVV1 Gabbi Mariko Bohemia

Mrs.K · 11-11-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithie86

Thank you Cliff :-).

But, the reason that I asked about who you wll train with is multi-fold.

1. Are they OK with you getting a puppy from another breeder outside the club? There are some clubs that like to focus on dogs within or only certain types of dogs. Some are only good with young adult dogs.

2. To get to the level that you are looking for with a puppy, is there a training director, helper, etc in the club who has done that repeatedly with a puppy in the last few years to the National level and score in the x level that you are looking for?

If you are lined up with Anne, I echo the comment about talking to her about what to look for.

I wouldn't want to be with a club that wants me to buy from their own people. The OP is it's own person. He can go wherever he wants. If the club has an issue with that, tough luck, there is always another place you can go to, even if it is a longer drive.
There are also private training groups. If you look long enough, you will eventually find something.

wolfy dog · 11-11-2012, 03:58 PM

Sometimes the best dog for you is within reach. I have been looking for years and years and was starting to look oversees when I came across WD's breeder within two hours drive from me. He only had two pups available; one being WD, who happened to be 9 weeks old!!!!
The breeder told me that WD would be what I was looking for but not his brother who was very high drive. I believed and trusted him as I knew his good reputation and I didn't see any red flags and WD was calm and social. He was right; I couldn't have wished for a better match.

**gagsd** · 11-11-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gEEksWag03

Thank you all for your help so far on my journey, I have one more that i'd like your opinion on

Line-breeding for the progency of SG Erri z Blatenskeho Zamku and ZVV1 Gabbi Mariko Bohemia

Interesting. My Akina is very similar breeding.The worst thing I can say is size. Many of the Erri progeny I have seen are small, as is Akina. Janaeulva on this board also has a littermatre.

Quick, willing, lots of drive. My girl has plenty of "defense" as well as prey. She is more "prey" and when first doing bitework had a problem barking because she was so overloaded. She is not a "powerhouse" but then she is small, the full sleeve makes her flip over when she carries

. Very methodical tracker. She can be a little soft in obedience. Fast, fast, fast! Agile. "Flyer" in the bitework.

People in schutzhund state they love her. Pistol, Firecracker.... these are things people call her.
She is also an excellent house dog. A bit territorial and shows guarding behavior of "her" things.

cliffson1 · 11-12-2012, 09:26 AM

I sent you pm about this breeding, that issue aside this is a nice working litter.

holland · 11-12-2012, 11:01 AM

I think most clubs will probably not care who the dog was bred by if it is a good working dog-thats my experience -there is another piece of going to the nationals though and you might want to go visit a schutzhund club-to see if its something you want to do-I kinda like the corgis the first breeder had -of course you probably don't need to go to Germany for a corgi-that breed is growing on me-

11-09-2012, 01:20 PM	#51 (permalink)
gagsd Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: georgia Posts: 3,867	I have met Sue and Gabor and even trained with them a few times. In my opinion, they are knowledgeable and honest and CERTAINLY have dogs owner-trained and owner-bred competing at the highest levels. And doing well at it, if I might add. __________________ ----Mary I love my dogs..... But I am a dog owner, not a pet parent. Go Train The Dog!

11-09-2012, 02:13 PM	#52 (permalink)
Ace952 Master Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 752	here is a breeding that just took place. I have a pup from them. They work and title all of their dogs. Their dogs go to nationals and breeder puts zvv3 's on dogs from his breedings. Line-breeding for the progency of VD Miki z Berounské basty and VD Jikra z Trucu There are 2 are black females from this litter left. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=1840495 Last edited by Ace952; 11-09-2012 at 02:23 PM.

11-11-2012, 03:32 PM	#55 (permalink)
gEEksWag03 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sunny So Cal, Long Beach Posts: 63	Thank you all for your help so far on my journey, I have one more that i'd like your opinion on Line-breeding for the progency of SG Erri z Blatenskeho Zamku and ZVV1 Gabbi Mariko Bohemia __________________ Spartacus Patiala FaceBook

11-11-2012, 03:58 PM	#57 (permalink)
wolfy dog Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,297	Sometimes the best dog for you is within reach. I have been looking for years and years and was starting to look oversees when I came across WD's breeder within two hours drive from me. He only had two pups available; one being WD, who happened to be 9 weeks old!!!! The breeder told me that WD would be what I was looking for but not his brother who was very high drive. I believed and trusted him as I knew his good reputation and I didn't see any red flags and WD was calm and social. He was right; I couldn't have wished for a better match. __________________ To know if you are doing things right, you should be willing to trade places with your dog.

11-09-2012, 02:45 PM	#54 (permalink)
Ace952 Master Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 752	sure

11-12-2012, 09:26 AM	#59 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,868	I sent you pm about this breeding, that issue aside this is a nice working litter.

11-12-2012, 11:01 AM	#60 (permalink)
holland Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,261	I think most clubs will probably not care who the dog was bred by if it is a good working dog-thats my experience -there is another piece of going to the nationals though and you might want to go visit a schutzhund club-to see if its something you want to do-I kinda like the corgis the first breeder had -of course you probably don't need to go to Germany for a corgi-that breed is growing on me-

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