Breeders for Long Haired + Large German Shepherds

[LaWFuLEviL]

Hey guys !

First of all let me tell you that I went through many pictures of your puppies and all of them are just gorgeous !

Ever since I was a kid, as far as I can go back and try to remember, I have always wanted to get a German Shepherd. My parents didn't allow that for many reasons. I thought to myself I will get one when I get my own house.

20 years later, I think the time has finally come and I cannot wait to get a puppy. Since I have had time to think about this over the years, I really know what kind of German Shepherd I want. And by that I mean I know how the puppy should look and behave, but I cannot put technical terms on it, like the ones most of you have put as "signatures" when you post something, I don't understand what they mean (ofcourse I need to read more). I also have the name picked out, which also I had decided when I was kid.

So basically this is what I am looking for in my puppy :

• Male
• Long haired
• Black/Red or Black/Tan or Black/Silver (More black in all cases)
• As large as possible when adult
• High energy, activity level and playfulness
• Low aggression, must be loving and mingle easily with kids and other dogs, family dog type
• Protective nature
• Trainable for showings and competitions

It may be difficult to get all that in one puppy, ofcourse I know I must compromise in some aspects, but thats what my ideal puppy should be like.

I am an active person, into running, biking and many other sports. I would like to take my puppy everywhere I can. He has all rights to enjoy life, see the world and have different experiences and not just keep him confined to one place like home. At some point in his life, I would also like him to breed (like I said experience everything ). I would like to train him for competitions and showings, every species has a purpose, with purpose the mental and physical nature flourishes, thus working towards a better life ( I am sure dogs get bored too).

I currently live in Rochester,NY (Western/Upstate NY) and I have been going through some threads and from what I understand there are no good breeders around this area, some members have had bad experiences. Ofcourse like any other prospective pet parent I would like to avoid such breeders. Therefore, I am looking for a really good breeder who may have a puppy with the qualities described above, from any part of US. The breeder should be able to ship the puppy to me.

Needless to say, the puppy must be purebred, healthy with all standard shots and vet stuff done, with all paperwork, AKC registration ( is this possible for a Black/Silver puppy ?), health guarentee, hips, elbows, bones checked and confirmed, Champion bloodline or Champion Sired.

[qbchottu]

When researching any breeder, read this beforehand:
Things to look for in a 'Responsible' Breeder

"Large as possible" is not what you should be hunting for when looking for a GSD. GSDs are medium/large dogs and here is the breed standard for size/weight:
Weight
Male 30–40 kilograms (66–88 lb)
Female 22–32 kilograms (49–71 lb)
Height
Male 60–65 centimetres (24–26 in)
Female 53–60 centimetres (21–24 in)
An oversized GSD will not be agile, is more likely to experience joint issues and might not be the active running partner you envision. Choose a breeder that breeds within the breed standard and stands behinds their guarantees. Size is the last thing you should be selecting for...especially in a joint issue prone dog like the GSD.

You mentioned you wanted to show the dog? The SV just started allowing long coats. What venue did you want to show this dog? Long coats are limited in where they can show because they are considered outside the breed standard. Most (if not all) reputable breeders will not breed for long coats.

[LaWFuLEviL]

I had enquired at the local German Shepherd Dog Club of Rochester,NY Inc. for breeders who have signed the "Code of Ethics" and I was recommended the following breeders :

• Steven and Ann Barbash
• Diane or Darcy Rombough
• Robin St. George
• Sharon Wunder

Also, my online research brought me to these two website :

• http://www.newyorkgermanshepherdbreeders.net/
• http://www.germanshepherdbreedersinnewyork.com/

Does anyone have anything to say about the breeders mentioned above and/or the websites mentioned above ?
Can anyone recommend me really good breeders from anywhere in the US ?


Thanks a lot guys !


Can't wait get my puppy !

[qbchottu]

The following link will be a good thread for you to read because I noticed about a half dozen breeder "catch phrases" used in your post. Beware of catch phrases that cannot be backed up! Any reputable breeder will be able to present his or her dog in an honest and direct manner. They don't need flowery or stylized language to draw you in. Their dogs stand for themselves.

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...h-phrases.html

[doggiedad]

you can find everything you listed in a pup. a dog within the
standard is big. when it comes to protection some GSD's are
naturally protective and some not as much. leave the breeding
to the pros.

[QUOTE=LaWFuLEviL;2489465]





So basically this is what I am looking for in my puppy :

• Male
• Long haired
• Black/Red or Black/Tan or Black/Silver (More black in all cases)

>>>> As large as possible when adult<<<<

• energy, activity level and playfulness
• Low aggression, must be loving and mingle easily with kids and other dogs, family dog type

>>>> Protective nature<<<<

• Trainable for showings and competitions

It may be difficult to get all that in one puppy, ofcourse I know I must compromise in some aspects, but thats what my ideal puppy should be like.

I am an active person, into running, biking and many other sports. I would like to take my puppy everywhere I can. He has all rights to enjoy life, see the world and have different experiences and not just keep him confined to one place like home.

>>>> At some point in his life, I would also like him to breed <<<<

(like I said experience everything ). I would like to train him for competitions and showings, every species has a purpose, with purpose the mental and physical nature flourishes, thus working towards a better life ( I am sure dogs get bored too).



Needless to say, the puppy must be purebred, healthy with all standard shots and vet stuff done, with all paperwork, AKC registration ( is this possible for a Black/Silver puppy ?), health guarentee, hips, elbows, bones checked and confirmed, Champion bloodline or Champion Sired.[/QUOTE]

[bocron]

The names you listed seem to be breeders of American Showline German Shepherds.
Before choosing a breeder/pup it would be a good idea to learn the main "types" and figure out which is the one for you. It will help narrow down your search considerably.

Here are a couple of sites to get you started,

Shawlein Fine Art & Purebred German Shepherd Dogs

(Types of German Shepherds, by Wildhaus Kennels )

And some other info that may be useful,

How to tell a good breeder website from a bad one | | Ruffly Speaking: Dog photography and general dog nuttiness of all kinds. Kind of like Nutella.Ruffly Speaking: Dog photography and general dog nuttiness of all kinds. Kind of like Nutella.

[Cassidy's Mom]

Oh, you want Keefer. Sorry, he's already taken.



Although he's not that large - at around 80 pounds he's well within the standard for a male, but with his large masculine head, big bones, and excess of hair he's often guessed as larger than he is - one time someone guesed 115 pounds! And just last week he was referred to as a "massive" dog. Keef is West German showlines, which is where you're going to find the black and red color you want, and also probably more longcoats than in other lines.

How big are you talking about when you say "as large as possible"? The male standard goes up to 88 pounds, but there are a lot of oversized GSDs out there. Generally, though, you're not going to get many recommendations for breeders deliberately producing dogs outside the standard, although it does happen in a litter unintentionally from time to time.

[Liesje]

FWIW an over sized, long-coated dog is not going to do that well if you want to show him.

[Andaka]

I have known Steve and Ann Barbash for years. They breed American Show Lines. I would recommend them as good people to deal with.

[mahhi22]

My LC girlie came from this breeder: House-Barrett introduces deep red and black Long Haired German Shepherds and the Long Coated German Shepherd Barrett

Although you don’t have to go all the way to Germany to get a LC GSD. I chose this breeder cuz I wanted a LC & liked how she bred vs the LC breeders in the US. I also didn’t want to wait for however long for a LC to pop up in a stock coat litter of the breeders in the US I did like. Cost wise w shipping my girlie didn’t cost all that much more than buying from a reputable US breeder. At almost 2yr old she is maturing into an all around great doggy. The males from this breeder are magnificent. They look like lions w their coat & large heads. If your budget can afford it I’d give Dagmar consideration if a LC is what you want.

BTW Debbie, I love Keefer & his dark mask Such a handsome boy!