any dealings with Strongheartedbreeders in MO

[ladyluck]

looking into adding a gsd showline to the family and have been looking at this website. any ideas or info on this breeder?
thanks Sherry

[Lucy Dog]

Based on their website, they look like a family breeding their pets. Nothing regarding working or showing their dogs. Nothing regarding health checks. They're mixing show lines and working lines - which isn't a bad thing if you know what you're doing. Not particularly impressed.

http://www.strongheartedbreeders.com/index.html

[Emoore]

You know, this is just my opinion. But when a breeder's big claim about their stud dog is that it includes a certain dog, and that certain dog is 4 generations back in the pedigree. . . . and his name is misspelled on their home page. . . . it's just a turnoff to me.

If you like the look of their dogs, at least ask about hip/elbow and health certifications. I don't see any listed on their website, and they're not in the OFA database, but maybe they used a different certifying body.

[Lucy Dog]

Originally Posted by Emoore

You know, this is just my opinion. But when a breeder's big claim about their stud dog is that it includes a certain dog, and that certain dog is 4 generations back in the pedigree. . . . and his name is misspelled on their home page. . . . it's just a turnoff to me.

Especially when that dog is pretty common ancestry in a lot of WGSL dogs. I wouldn't exactly call Ursus in a pedigree rare. They even spelled the dog's name wrong on their website.

[meldleistikow]

They seem more worried about big blocky heads and shoulders, rather than temperaments and health. This concerns me.

[Lucy Dog]

They're also doing pretty close linebreeding on both Duke Vom Ertel Haus and Retlapi Cecil (3-3 each) with this breeding.

I'd be curious as to what's the reasoning behind that. I'd also want to find out as much as I could about those two dogs.

[Frankly I'm Frank]

The word 'mediocre' comes to mind.