Question on Czech dogs/European dogs

mrudderman24 · 10-20-2011, 04:52 PM

I noticed quite a few people here have imported puppies. I just had some questions. Who are some reputable breeders to look at? What is the average price? Any other info you could provide, would be great.

GSDElsa · 10-20-2011, 04:56 PM

Depends on what you are looking for. Elaborate on needs, wants, lifestyle, etc...

mrudderman24 · 10-20-2011, 04:58 PM

Mostly pet. But I do agility with my current dog and I'm thinking about Sch

**JKlatsky** · 10-20-2011, 04:59 PM

*Most* of the time, unless you are looking for something specific, I think it is best to go with a domestic breeder. Often people will import pups because there are looking for a specific pedigree, or they really like a particular dog that is producing in Europe. But if you go with a domestic breeder...

1. You are not having to deal with a language barrier and you can better communicate your wants/needs in your future puppy.
2. Breeder support is better. Which I think is important if this is your first GSD.
3. Often import puppies have no kind of warranty. You get what you get.
4. There is no dealing with exchange rates or overseas airfare.
5. There is the possibility of seeing the puppies, the parents, or the kennel facility ahead of time.

And there are a lot of really excellent domestic breeders that keep up on the import lines.

GSDElsa · 10-20-2011, 05:08 PM

Agreed with JKlatsky....love my import, but if you are just looking for a good all-around dog, there is no point in going the import route IMO. Zybnek at Aritar Bastet is great...replies to emails quickly, has a great reputation, and the process I went through was seamless, etc. But there is a language barrier to a certain extent (his english is very good though) and if I ever had a big problem I really needed to discuss with him it would be difficult. Luckily, I have a nice working dog support system to bounce things off of though....not everyone is so lucky, though. I also have have no warranty or contract--which I'm personally fine with, but it's a large departure from what is standard in the US.

No matter who the breeder is I think there is a certain amount of stress that goes with it...."did my puppy leave Europe ok?" "will everything go OK with customs?" (heard horror stories). "It's been 2 hours where is the puppy's crate?!" "When will I get my import papers? They left Europe 3 weeks ago...where are they?!" Etc etc etc.

Emoore · 10-20-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mrudderman24

I noticed quite a few people here have imported puppies. I just had some questions. Who are some reputable breeders to look at?

Are you asking about breeders of import lines, or brokers to purchase an import through, or kennels in E.U. to buy from?

zyppi · 10-20-2011, 05:42 PM

I sent you a PM

mrudderman24 · 10-20-2011, 09:30 PM

thank you for the responses. Emoore, I was referring to Kennels where I coudl possibly purchase down the road. Just trying to furher educate myself.

wolfstraum · 10-20-2011, 10:05 PM

Unless you have a very specific need for a specific bloodline you can get a very good quality puppy here in the States. Given the costs associated with importing, you won't save any money buying in Europe....getting a pup here gives you the advantage of developing a relationship with a caring breeder who speaks the same language. While many people have gotten very nice pups from Europe, just as many have had poor tempered pups dumped on them and IMO it is a much safer bet to get a pup domestically if you do not have very good connections in Europe.

Lee

mrudderman24 · 10-21-2011, 05:05 PM

Thanks. Is it true the Czech dogs are generally more "wired" and not as easy going as other lines? Or is it the matter of finding the right temperament in the litter?

I know this is probably the worst reason in the world, but I have always loved their "look." I guess part of this quest is the novelty of owning one. That doesn't mean I am going to attempt to purchase a dog that is not right for my household, but I am just being up front. Ideally I would like a dog I could do agility with and possibly Sch (just found a local club). But the dog would also have to be OK being a housedog.

Can anyone recommend some breeders on the East coast? I will be moving back to the Mid Atlantic area, so by the time I'm ready for another dog, I will be in Maryland again

Thanks

10-20-2011, 04:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
mrudderman24 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58	Question on Czech dogs/European dogs I noticed quite a few people here have imported puppies. I just had some questions. Who are some reputable breeders to look at? What is the average price? Any other info you could provide, would be great.

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GSDElsa Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central, NY Posts: 3,706	Depends on what you are looking for. Elaborate on needs, wants, lifestyle, etc... __________________ Justine, mom to: - Elsa - BrightStar Rescue - "Da Pookins" - Medo Aritar Bastet - "The Beast From The East"

10-20-2011, 04:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
JKlatsky Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,985	Most of the time, unless you are looking for something specific, I think it is best to go with a domestic breeder. Often people will import pups because there are looking for a specific pedigree, or they really like a particular dog that is producing in Europe. But if you go with a domestic breeder... 1. You are not having to deal with a language barrier and you can better communicate your wants/needs in your future puppy. 2. Breeder support is better. Which I think is important if this is your first GSD. 3. Often import puppies have no kind of warranty. You get what you get. 4. There is no dealing with exchange rates or overseas airfare. 5. There is the possibility of seeing the puppies, the parents, or the kennel facility ahead of time. And there are a lot of really excellent domestic breeders that keep up on the import lines. __________________ Argos vom Eisernen Loewen VPG1, CGC, TC 3-3-07 Bianka vom Eisernen Loewen BH, CGC, TC 1-3-08 Cade vom Eisernen Loewen CGC 3-25-09 D'Artagnan (Tag) vom Eisernen Loewen 2-2-10 G Aiko von Burkndeiros SchH 3, IPO3, FH, TC, KKL2 9-17-02

10-20-2011, 05:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
GSDElsa Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central, NY Posts: 3,706	Agreed with JKlatsky....love my import, but if you are just looking for a good all-around dog, there is no point in going the import route IMO. Zybnek at Aritar Bastet is great...replies to emails quickly, has a great reputation, and the process I went through was seamless, etc. But there is a language barrier to a certain extent (his english is very good though) and if I ever had a big problem I really needed to discuss with him it would be difficult. Luckily, I have a nice working dog support system to bounce things off of though....not everyone is so lucky, though. I also have have no warranty or contract--which I'm personally fine with, but it's a large departure from what is standard in the US. No matter who the breeder is I think there is a certain amount of stress that goes with it...."did my puppy leave Europe ok?" "will everything go OK with customs?" (heard horror stories). "It's been 2 hours where is the puppy's crate?!" "When will I get my import papers? They left Europe 3 weeks ago...where are they?!" Etc etc etc. __________________ Justine, mom to: - Elsa - BrightStar Rescue - "Da Pookins" - Medo Aritar Bastet - "The Beast From The East"

10-20-2011, 05:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
zyppi Crowned Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Back home to Louisiana! Posts: 4,943	I sent you a PM __________________ Anne Nothing is as simple as it seems or as complicated as we make it~ Attitude is everything -- Pick a good one! Sofie AKA Ussina vom Haus Brezel Jack von Jagenstadt Tatty - Burmese bad cat

10-20-2011, 04:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
mrudderman24 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58	Mostly pet. But I do agility with my current dog and I'm thinking about Sch

10-20-2011, 09:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
mrudderman24 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58	thank you for the responses. Emoore, I was referring to Kennels where I coudl possibly purchase down the road. Just trying to furher educate myself.

10-20-2011, 10:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,088	Unless you have a very specific need for a specific bloodline you can get a very good quality puppy here in the States. Given the costs associated with importing, you won't save any money buying in Europe....getting a pup here gives you the advantage of developing a relationship with a caring breeder who speaks the same language. While many people have gotten very nice pups from Europe, just as many have had poor tempered pups dumped on them and IMO it is a much safer bet to get a pup domestically if you do not have very good connections in Europe. Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

10-21-2011, 05:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
mrudderman24 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58	Thanks. Is it true the Czech dogs are generally more "wired" and not as easy going as other lines? Or is it the matter of finding the right temperament in the litter? I know this is probably the worst reason in the world, but I have always loved their "look." I guess part of this quest is the novelty of owning one. That doesn't mean I am going to attempt to purchase a dog that is not right for my household, but I am just being up front. Ideally I would like a dog I could do agility with and possibly Sch (just found a local club). But the dog would also have to be OK being a housedog. Can anyone recommend some breeders on the East coast? I will be moving back to the Mid Atlantic area, so by the time I'm ready for another dog, I will be in Maryland again Thanks

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