Thoughts on this breeder in Michigan

bunchoberrys · 10-10-2011, 01:53 PM

vomdinaburg.com

Ok, so next year my youngest will be going to school full time, and Huz and I discussed about getting another GS. (talked him out of getting a Jack Russell

) Kane is the best dog I have ever owned, he is my heart dog. We both agreed to get another WGSL. Well, today I started researching around and came across this breeder not too far from me. Thoughts? And does anyone have a puppy from them?

**MaggieRoseLee** · 10-10-2011, 03:22 PM

You know we all like what we like, so make sure you keep that in mind!

Are they close enough for you to visit? Can you talk to past puppy owners to compare their experiences with the dogs and the breeder?

I know for me, the money I pay is NOT for the puppy. Instead it's to support the breeder and their philosophies for their program AND the future of the breed. So feeling comfortable with that is key to me.

Would like a bit more in the puppy warranty/agreement though. Other things beside hip dysplasia (and it looks like they are only saying CRIPPLING by 2 years old?) to consider in our breed.

puppiespage

(German Shepherd Puppy Health Warranty, by Wildhaus Kennels ) has a bit more complete of a warranty for my needs.

Lucy Dog · 10-10-2011, 03:26 PM

Never heard of this one, but if I was in Michigan and I was looking for a show line, Alta Tollhaus would probably be my first option.

But go ahead and check this breeder out. See if you like what you see.

bunchoberrys · 10-10-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieRoseLee

You know we all like what we like, so make sure you keep that in mind!

Are they close enough for you to visit? Can you talk to past puppy owners to compare their experiences with the dogs and the breeder?

I know for me, the money I pay is NOT for the puppy. Instead it's to support the breeder and their philosophies for their program AND the future of the breed. So feeling comfortable with that is key to me.

Would like a bit more in the puppy warranty/agreement though. Other things beside hip dysplasia (and it looks like they are only saying CRIPPLING by 2 years old?) to consider in our breed.

puppiespage

(German Shepherd Puppy Health Warranty, by Wildhaus Kennels ) has a bit more complete of a warranty for my needs.

MRL, thats one of the reasons why I was looking at the site, because of the location. As we have witnessed before, you cannot put your money on just a pretty website. I have not contacted this breeder as of yet, because I wanted input first if any other breeders or fellow members know or have purchased a dog from them.

As I have stated, I am researching and still looking. I would love one from Robin, but unfortunately she is out of my "bubble". lol. And I'll probably post some other breeders on here for evaluation, and so the search continues.

. But, thank you for your input, I have learned alot about breeders and their programs or lack thereof.

Jax08 · 10-10-2011, 04:24 PM

I'm uncomfortable anytime I see a price range for puppies. I can understand this price with guarantee, this price without but to see a range of $900-$2500 raises flags for me. Also, do they actually breed or do they import? It said on their site the puppies were imported? Who put the titles on these dogs? Were they bought with the titles or did the ppl train and title? Maybe post a few pedigrees for the puppies and get some opinions from Cliff, Robin and Carmen!

Lucy Dog · 10-10-2011, 04:41 PM

Are you open to having a puppy shipped? This will help expand the bubble (if you're referring to location as the bubble) if you really can't find anything close to you.

bunchoberrys · 10-10-2011, 04:57 PM

Lucy, I really would like to meet the breeder face to face. See the kennel, the dogs, how its maintained, etc. I like to ask alot of questions and I can get a better feel of a person and how compassionate they are about dogs and breeding program if I'm face to face.I am not comfortable just talking over the phone or emailing. Thats just me. I like Robins GS ALOT. I wish I could visit with her if she was closer.

Lucy Dog · 10-10-2011, 05:05 PM

If you really like Robins dogs that much (and the feelings mutual

) ... try and make a plan to go out there and visit her dogs if you're really set on meeting someone face to face. If you like what you see, you can always have a puppy shipped out when ready if she's up for that. You don't have to go out and buy anything that day.

Not trying to single out Robin, just using her as an example because you mentioned her. This can apply to any breeder. There are plenty of good breeders who ship and not all areas have good breeders. It's just a way to expand your options. The way I think of it... why settle?

Jessiewessie99 · 10-10-2011, 05:08 PM

I would also look into Julie at Alta Tollhaus, a few people here have dogs from her and are very pleased, and plus she is in Michigan.

bunchoberrys · 10-10-2011, 05:21 PM

Thank you all. I will check out AltaTolhaus as well.

10-10-2011, 01:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
bunchoberrys Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 537	Thoughts on this breeder in Michigan vomdinaburg.com Ok, so next year my youngest will be going to school full time, and Huz and I discussed about getting another GS. (talked him out of getting a Jack Russell ) Kane is the best dog I have ever owned, he is my heart dog. We both agreed to get another WGSL. Well, today I started researching around and came across this breeder not too far from me. Thoughts? And does anyone have a puppy from them? __________________ ~ Jess ~ "Kane" 2-12-09 "It all started when my dog began getting free roll over minutes. " Jay London

10-10-2011, 03:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
MaggieRoseLee The Agility Rocks! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bushkill, PA (The Poconos!) Posts: 22,205	You know we all like what we like, so make sure you keep that in mind! Are they close enough for you to visit? Can you talk to past puppy owners to compare their experiences with the dogs and the breeder? I know for me, the money I pay is NOT for the puppy. Instead it's to support the breeder and their philosophies for their program AND the future of the breed. So feeling comfortable with that is key to me. Would like a bit more in the puppy warranty/agreement though. Other things beside hip dysplasia (and it looks like they are only saying CRIPPLING by 2 years old?) to consider in our breed. puppiespage (German Shepherd Puppy Health Warranty, by Wildhaus Kennels ) has a bit more complete of a warranty for my needs. __________________ MACH2 Bretta Lee Wildhaus CGC TC TQX Glory B Wildhaus NA, NJ, NF + LOL (still) "*Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde*

10-10-2011, 03:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,180	Never heard of this one, but if I was in Michigan and I was looking for a show line, Alta Tollhaus would probably be my first option. But go ahead and check this breeder out. See if you like what you see. __________________ Paul

10-10-2011, 04:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,180	Are you open to having a puppy shipped? This will help expand the bubble (if you're referring to location as the bubble) if you really can't find anything close to you. __________________ Paul

10-10-2011, 04:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
bunchoberrys Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 537	Lucy, I really would like to meet the breeder face to face. See the kennel, the dogs, how its maintained, etc. I like to ask alot of questions and I can get a better feel of a person and how compassionate they are about dogs and breeding program if I'm face to face.I am not comfortable just talking over the phone or emailing. Thats just me. I like Robins GS ALOT. I wish I could visit with her if she was closer. __________________ ~ Jess ~ "Kane" 2-12-09 "It all started when my dog began getting free roll over minutes. " Jay London

10-10-2011, 04:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 14,321	I'm uncomfortable anytime I see a price range for puppies. I can understand this price with guarantee, this price without but to see a range of $900-$2500 raises flags for me. Also, do they actually breed or do they import? It said on their site the puppies were imported? Who put the titles on these dogs? Were they bought with the titles or did the ppl train and title? Maybe post a few pedigrees for the puppies and get some opinions from Cliff, Robin and Carmen!

10-10-2011, 05:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,180	If you really like Robins dogs that much (and the feelings mutual ) ... try and make a plan to go out there and visit her dogs if you're really set on meeting someone face to face. If you like what you see, you can always have a puppy shipped out when ready if she's up for that. You don't have to go out and buy anything that day. Not trying to single out Robin, just using her as an example because you mentioned her. This can apply to any breeder. There are plenty of good breeders who ship and not all areas have good breeders. It's just a way to expand your options. The way I think of it... why settle? __________________ Paul

10-10-2011, 05:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jessiewessie99 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lakewod, CA Posts: 6,807	I would also look into Julie at Alta Tollhaus, a few people here have dogs from her and are very pleased, and plus she is in Michigan. __________________ Jessica-Shelter Volunteer Molly-GSD ✔ Certified Ninja Dog Tanner-GSD ✔ Certified Lovebug RIP: Max & Simba "No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible."-George Chakiris, as said by Agent Derek Mogan

10-10-2011, 05:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
bunchoberrys Master Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 537	Thank you all. I will check out AltaTolhaus as well. __________________ ~ Jess ~ "Kane" 2-12-09 "It all started when my dog began getting free roll over minutes. " Jay London

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