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[Aralez]

Alright I'm hoping this is my last stop. Both parents look great with really good pedigrees as far as i can tell. They wanted 1,800 but i asked if they would be willing to part with 1,500 and they said okay. Im going to the kennel in a couple hours.

Here is the link:

German Shepherds Beverly Hills German Shepherd Puppies For Sale Los Angeles

Edit: Also, i forgot to ask, what is a plush coat? Is it like a long coat? Or is it like a rich full coat?

The puppy is Maximus and he is 7 weeks old.

[Emoore]

Any breeder with George Foreman on the website is A-Ok with me.

[IllinoisGSD]

You can't get your dog OFA'ed until 2yrs but their health guarantee expires before then. I'd say this is a red flag.

Taken from the health guarantee:

If this dog develops crippling hip dysplasia at anytime from purchase to one year of age (confirmed by x-rays from a competent licensed Veterinarian), the dog should be returned to us at the expense of the Buyer. We will replace the dog (due to crippling dysplasia) as soon as possible with a replacement of equal value to the dog at the time of original purchase. We reserve the right to request that the x-rays be sent first for review to a board-certified Veterinary Radiologist or other Veterinarian of our choice. Should the Buyer prefer to retain the said dog, the Buyer thereby forfeits any replacement, unless other arrangements are mutually agreed upon. This guarantee is null and void if Penn-Hip procedure has been used at any time during life of dog. No further guarantee is made.

[4TheDawgies]

You can get a dogs prelims after 12 months maybe thats what they mean....

A dog would be showing dysplasia at 12 months

[Jack's Dad]

If I remember correctly you have been researching for about a year and already recieved a lot of advice from your pevious thread.
At some point you have to bite the bullet and take a chance as their are no absolute guarantees.

I'm getting a pup soon and what I did was pick the breeder. The breeder is picking the puppy based on my information. I asked others with knowledge about the pedigree and bloodlines. Everyone does it differently.

My only question is will you be able to walk away from that really cute puppy? What would make you walk away?

Good Luck. Have fun looking at their dogs and puppies.

[Barb E]

You can actually get OFA prelims done after 4 months.

I haven't read the whole contract yet, but I found this different:
" This guarantee is null and void if Penn-Hip procedure has been used at any time during life of dog. No further guarantee is made. "

[N Smith]

Definitely not a breeder I would choose, so in deciding if you should get this pup, my first question is, what are you getting this pup for?

ie: companion, sport, show?

[BR870]

Originally Posted by Aralez

Alright I'm hoping this is my last stop. Both parents look great with really good pedigrees as far as i can tell. They wanted 1,800 but i asked if they would be willing to part with 1,500 and they said okay. Im going to the kennel in a couple hours.

Here is the link:

German Shepherds Beverly Hills German Shepherd Puppies For Sale Los Angeles

Edit: Also, i forgot to ask, what is a plush coat? Is it like a long coat? Or is it like a rich full coat?

The puppy is Maximus and he is 7 weeks old.

Plush coat is the coat that German Show breeders go for. It is alittle longer than a normal stock coat, but not as long as a long stock coat...

As for the guarantees... Does seem kinda early to expire. I would feel safer with a 2 year health guarantee, however you can get prelims done by 12 months. Overall seems like a decent breeder, but I just very breifly scanned their page.

Go meet them in person. If you feel comfortable than go with your instincts... This is your puppy and you have to decide if this is whats right for you.

[selzer]

That is true about the health guaranty, it is not worth the parchment. Define crippling hip dysplasia -- that doesn't mean the dog is certified dysplastic, it means the dog cannot walk. And then you have to return it for a replacement.

However, health guaranties are a racket anyways. People here offer them because it is expected. I think they really do not matter much. Dog and Bitch have nice show line pedigrees.

They have three litters they are currently advertising -- nothing to be concerned about but to notice. They also sell Rottweilers. I wonder how many Rotty litters are on the ground. Again, having two breeds is not the end of the world, but something to take note of.

I plugged on the links that must be read for the guaranty to be valid. Hope you are into reading, a LOT.

I personally think the puppy is worth $1,500. Unless there is something gruesome when you visit the kennel, I think you will probably be happy with the puppy. Both sire and dam have some ticking though.

There is no such thing as a plush coat. Dogs either have a stock coat, a long coat with an undercoat, or a long coat without an undercoat. But many people refer to a stock coat that is very full to be plush. The long coat (which is not plush) will be longer under the belly, and will have feathering all in the and around the ears. A plush coat when they are full grown will have a bushy tail, feathering down the front legs, and a nice full mane (if the dog is not neutered early), but will not have long hair around the ears, and the overall length will not be like a long coat. Most of your German show line males would be considered plush.

[ILGHAUS]

Not even having looked at the web site I would be concerned that they will sell and part with a pup at 7 weeks and that they are excepting less then advertised price. Yes, there would be circumstances where the breeder might want to place a pup with a certain person such as a known handler.