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Old 09-21-2011, 01:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So we are still looking at all of our options and are not tied to the ASL breeding I posted in the Bloodlines and Pedigree forum. We still have much time! And I am debating between the choice of buying an ASL or importing a GSL. So anyway to make a long post short has any one had any experiences with this kennel or can you offer some insight into their reputation or program?
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I don't know the particular kennel.

If your choice is between ASL or GSL, what are your particular goals or interests for the pup?
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I'm kind of interested in why your choices are buying an ASL domestically, or importing a GSL. Why not buy a GSL domestically?
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Well I like to show in conformation but my husband and I also love more active events like Agility, Obedience, Tracking, Herding, anything we can get involved in. I know ASL's can do these things they might not be the best but they can give it a go. But I have always loved GSL dogs and I have this nagging feeling that I need jump in and try one out. I wish there were a way to combine the two into the perfect German Shepherd Show Line Dog! But until I become more experienced and actually have the knowledge to breed such a dog I kinda have to choose one way or the other.
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I'm kind of interested in why your choices are buying an ASL domestically, or importing a GSL. Why not buy a GSL domestically?
Well I feel kind of lost when looking at GSL breeders I don't know much about the kennels and I honestly and sheepishly admit I hadn't even thought that there would be that many in the U.S.

I have made friends with this kennel through facebook a while ago and I like the discussions we have had and his dogs are pretty to me... in a manly male dog kind of way lol
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Well I feel kind of lost when looking at GSL breeders I don't know much about the kennels and I honestly and sheepishly admit I hadn't even thought that there would be that many in the U.S.
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Oh my goodness. Lots and lots of fabulous GSL breeders in the US. Take a look at Huertahof in IL www.teamhuertahof.com and Alta-tollhaus in MI www.24kgsd.com

Those are two United states GSL breeders that do things with their dogs besides showing.
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Oh my goodness. Lots and lots of fabulous GSL breeders in the US. Take a look at Huertahof in IL www.teamhuertahof.com and Alta-tollhaus in MI www.24kgsd.com

Those are two United states GSL breeders that do things with their dogs besides showing.
I second both of these breeders.

Robin is a wonderful person with gorgeous dogs.

Alta-Tollhaus produces gorgeous dogs like Nikon and Gavin.
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If you want a GSL that can successfully be shown in ASL type rings, you have to be more choosy. I was just looking at some photos of Debby Melle's dog Vogue who has had some recent success in the AKC ring. To me that is a dog that can show with some success in SV, AKC, and UKC. However I'm not really familiar with Debby, her lines, or if this is what she consistently produces (I'm not saying she doesn't, just that this particular dog caught my eye, and I have seen the dog in person multiple times).

My Nikon does fine in SV type shows, OK in UKC shows (would do better if I put more into good ring training for him and myself, but he is a Champion and I will keep showing him for fun, maybe to GRCH), but would likely not do well in AKC. I did some AKC with him as a puppy (like the match things that don't count b/c they are too young) and he beat some ASL mostly because his movement has always been tight, even as a bitty puppy he was never all loosey-goosey. But now he is just not the type that would succeed, even in the all-breed shows.

There are plenty of great GSL breeders in North America!
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You take A LOT of risks importing if you don't already have a relationship with the kennel or person that is importing, or if you don't have a working knowledge of the "kind" or "type" of dog you are importing (i.e. working, WGSL, etc.). Many people that are "new" like the "looks" of a dog from a kennel, or may even like the website or the things that the person from said kennel says to them...but don't have the right contacts or the right questions to ask in order to make sure they aren't getting ripped off.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't import, but maybe you should try looking in the states first...since this would be your first WGSL (if that's what you decide to get). There are some impeccable breeders here, stateside, that are breeding incredible working temperament in their WGSL. Huerta Hof is one of them.
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You take A LOT of risks importing if you don't already have a relationship with the kennel or person that is importing, or if you don't have a working knowledge of the "kind" or "type" of dog you are importing (i.e. working, WGSL, etc.). Many people that are "new" like the "looks" of a dog from a kennel, or may even like the website or the things that the person from said kennel says to them...but don't have the right contacts or the rigt questions to ask in order to make sure they aren't getting ripped off.
I agree with this. I kind of get the impression that a lot of unsuspecting American buyers pay top-dollar for a dog that the Germans are happy to get off their hands.
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