Looking for a breeder in the Northeast

cristina · 09-17-2011, 07:22 PM

A friend of mine is looking for a breeder in the northeast (hes located in NY), but he has a pretty specific list of things he's looking for. He's an experienced GSD owner, he's had three already. His last shepherd was from Omega shepherds and the dog was a nightmare, so I don't think he wants a West German show lined shepherd. He wants to do protection training/Schutzhund with the dog, but he wants a dog that's going to be even-tempered, medium drive, and can be a good house dog as well. I was thinking an East German Working lined/DDR dog would be good for him, but he hates the sable color that seems to be predominately bred. He likes the bi-color, though.

Can anyone suggest a good breeder in this area? I tried to get him to look at Von Hena-C and Ryanhaus but he doesnt like the looks of their dogs.

Lucy Dog · 09-17-2011, 07:27 PM

Is color really that big of a deal when his last black and tan was a nightmare? Color should be at the bottom of the totem pole of needs when deciding on a dog... at least that's my way of looking at it.

How does he feel about an all black? How about another show line from a different breeder if he's dead set on a black and tan? There are quite a few very good show line breeders that may be worth a look.

**Cassidy's Mom** · 09-17-2011, 07:29 PM

There are also West German working line dogs - many are sable, but they come in other colors too, including solid black. Bi-colors are beautiful but just based on what I've seen around, both in person and in pictures of people's dogs on various GSD sites for the past few years, they seem to be much less common, so if he's got his heart set on a bi-color he's probably limiting his pool of potential breeders quite a bit.

cristina · 09-17-2011, 07:33 PM

I agree that color should be on the bottom of his list, but hes really stubborn about it. He hates the sable color, he thinks its ugly (I disagree but I'm not the one throwing down all the money for a dog). His second shepherd was a bi-color and he loved him to death, put tons of money into the dog for Schutzhund training, but the dog suffered from seizures and died from one when he was just over a year old.

If West German Lines seem to fit what he wants, can anyone suggest some breeders of those lines?

wolfstraum · 09-17-2011, 07:41 PM

Dan Cox has a litter coming from a black and tan Schh3, KKL1 working line female -

Mating test - German Shepherd Dog

Have met Candy, she is a nice stable social female - has more tan on her than in this photo as well...

Lee

**Cassidy's Mom** · 09-17-2011, 07:50 PM

There's Van Gogh, I think they're in MA. The next litter is not until Spring, not sure how that works for your friend. Her most recent litter was born in June and sired by my Halo's dad - he's solid black and when bred to a sable female there are a lot of blacks. This is the previous litter, out of 10 pups there were only 3 sables:

Workingdog Kennel van Gogh

G-burg · 09-19-2011, 06:11 PM

A good friend of mine just got a pup from Van Gogh.. Really, really nice stable pup..

But this kennel may not be what your friend is looking for..

robinhuerta · 09-19-2011, 06:23 PM

If he's willing to have one shipped (?)...a friend & breeder just had a litter born yesterday from a female she just imported. She is located in Wisconsin.
You can find more info on her website.
www.gildafk9.com

cristina · 09-24-2011, 09:27 AM

Thanks for all the input, guys. I think he was looking for breeders he could visit and see, although he did say if the breeder was really that reputable and guaranteed the health and temperament, he would have one shipped.

Even though he had a bad experience with one west sl shepherd, his fixation on looks makes me think he would benefit from checking out some good breeders of the west show lines who also train their dogs in Schutzhund, since that's what he ultimately wants to do with the dog. Can you guys recommend some breeders of those lines in the tri-state area (or within reasonable travel distance from queens, ny)?

Also, I don't think hes looking to get a pup right this second, he is definitely looking to do his research this time. He would be willing to wait for the right dog.

Jgk2383 · 09-24-2011, 11:25 AM

Von Hayden.

09-17-2011, 07:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
cristina New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4	Looking for a breeder in the Northeast A friend of mine is looking for a breeder in the northeast (hes located in NY), but he has a pretty specific list of things he's looking for. He's an experienced GSD owner, he's had three already. His last shepherd was from Omega shepherds and the dog was a nightmare, so I don't think he wants a West German show lined shepherd. He wants to do protection training/Schutzhund with the dog, but he wants a dog that's going to be even-tempered, medium drive, and can be a good house dog as well. I was thinking an East German Working lined/DDR dog would be good for him, but he hates the sable color that seems to be predominately bred. He likes the bi-color, though. Can anyone suggest a good breeder in this area? I tried to get him to look at Von Hena-C and Ryanhaus but he doesnt like the looks of their dogs.

09-17-2011, 07:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,180	Is color really that big of a deal when his last black and tan was a nightmare? Color should be at the bottom of the totem pole of needs when deciding on a dog... at least that's my way of looking at it. How does he feel about an all black? How about another show line from a different breeder if he's dead set on a black and tan? There are quite a few very good show line breeders that may be worth a look. __________________ Paul

09-17-2011, 07:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,948	There are also West German working line dogs - many are sable, but they come in other colors too, including solid black. Bi-colors are beautiful but just based on what I've seen around, both in person and in pictures of people's dogs on various GSD sites for the past few years, they seem to be much less common, so if he's got his heart set on a bi-color he's probably limiting his pool of potential breeders quite a bit. __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

09-17-2011, 07:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,088	Dan Cox has a litter coming from a black and tan Schh3, KKL1 working line female - Mating test - German Shepherd Dog Have met Candy, she is a nice stable social female - has more tan on her than in this photo as well... Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

09-17-2011, 07:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 24,948	There's Van Gogh, I think they're in MA. The next litter is not until Spring, not sure how that works for your friend. Her most recent litter was born in June and sired by my Halo's dad - he's solid black and when bred to a sable female there are a lot of blacks. This is the previous litter, out of 10 pups there were only 3 sables: Workingdog Kennel van Gogh __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

09-17-2011, 07:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
cristina New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4	I agree that color should be on the bottom of his list, but hes really stubborn about it. He hates the sable color, he thinks its ugly (I disagree but I'm not the one throwing down all the money for a dog). His second shepherd was a bi-color and he loved him to death, put tons of money into the dog for Schutzhund training, but the dog suffered from seizures and died from one when he was just over a year old. If West German Lines seem to fit what he wants, can anyone suggest some breeders of those lines?

09-19-2011, 06:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
G-burg Crowned Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,751	A good friend of mine just got a pup from Van Gogh.. Really, really nice stable pup.. But this kennel may not be what your friend is looking for.. __________________ Leesa~ Chaos v. Wildhaus, SchH2, OB3 (HOT) ~ Bismark v. Wildhaus, SchH1, TR1 (HOT) ~ Bailey,CGC, TDI & Dana, CGC, my problem child...

09-19-2011, 06:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
robinhuerta Knighted Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,224	If he's willing to have one shipped (?)...a friend & breeder just had a litter born yesterday from a female she just imported. She is located in Wisconsin. You can find more info on her website. www.gildafk9.com __________________ Huerta Hof German Shepherds www.teamhuertahof.com ....where breeding is still considered an art....

09-24-2011, 09:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
cristina New Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4	Thanks for all the input, guys. I think he was looking for breeders he could visit and see, although he did say if the breeder was really that reputable and guaranteed the health and temperament, he would have one shipped. Even though he had a bad experience with one west sl shepherd, his fixation on looks makes me think he would benefit from checking out some good breeders of the west show lines who also train their dogs in Schutzhund, since that's what he ultimately wants to do with the dog. Can you guys recommend some breeders of those lines in the tri-state area (or within reasonable travel distance from queens, ny)? Also, I don't think hes looking to get a pup right this second, he is definitely looking to do his research this time. He would be willing to wait for the right dog.

09-24-2011, 11:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jgk2383 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SouthEastern Arizona AKA The Sun Posts: 397	Von Hayden. __________________ May you live as long as you want but never want as long as you live- Slainte'!

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