Thoughts on this breeder in Germany?

[mro]

Hi all,

I found this breeder in Germany that I guess works with a kennel here in the states (where they get their import dogs)

I like the breeder here in America, but obviously they're not the ones that are breeding the dogs. In addition, I don't speak/know any German...

It's probably a long shot, but does anyone know anything regarding the following breeder? Thanks in advance!


Zwinger v.d. Wilden Teufeln - Zuchtsttte fr Deutsche Schferhunde | German Shepherd

[Adolph]

Hello,

I am pretty sure they speak English, as I have emailed them previously asking questions.

I use to breed Old Style Siamese, not the same of course, but I am sure my advice applies: This animal will be part of your life for a LONG TIME, investing in the time to visit the breeders and meeting the parents of the puppy is extremely important for the long-term.

There are good and bad breeders, just like in the states. While cleanliness "seems" only by my observation, to be a higher standard here in Germany, there continues to be breeders who do not vaccinate or socialize correctly. You will find that there are the same issues in German Kennels as there are in American kennels. For example I learned right before a purchase of a GDS here in Germany, that the breeder from the stud switched out his male dog to get a better hip ratting with another dog. This was a shock for many people as that person is a fairly respected breeder. The point is, problems can happen no matter where you live. For me, the lesson I learned was to find a breeder I trust and is willing to disclose the good and bad.

If you have your heart set on the American Kennel who is importing, ask to speak with owners who have owned their puppies longer than 2 years. I might take it a step further and call to speak with the parents Vets in Germany. Most medical professionals speak English so that should not be an issue.

I live in Heidelberg Germany, and I am only sharing my personal observations from what I am learning in searching for a GDS here.

Good Luck,
Amy

[La Boss]

Hey,
My only recent experience with getting a GSD from another country has been really stressful...So be thorough in your approach to this
My pup came from Poland at 8 wks, but was very stressed out by the move and subsequently triggered an immune system disorder, which was followed by a few normal puppy parasites that became more serious due to her already low threshold.
She is doing better now, after almost a month, but I wished that I knew more about how this whole thing worked before I started...That being said, I like the standards set in Poland, and she is a gorgeous girl.
Best of luck!
L.A.

[trudy]

La Boss, I would fear her immune system disorder and other issues have less to do with importing her as to the puppy's genetic and health issues to start with. A number of years ago i imported a Belgian puppy from Holland and she arrived happy and healthy. I've not heard of any shipped pups having health issues from being shipped... may want to think that one through, although it is better for the breeder to blame the travel than their lines or puppy, and of course vets will say well OK maybe....

[mro]

Originally Posted by Adolph

Hello,

I am pretty sure they speak English, as I have emailed them previously asking questions.

I use to breed Old Style Siamese, not the same of course, but I am sure my advice applies: This animal will be part of your life for a LONG TIME, investing in the time to visit the breeders and meeting the parents of the puppy is extremely important for the long-term.

There are good and bad breeders, just like in the states. While cleanliness "seems" only by my observation, to be a higher standard here in Germany, there continues to be breeders who do not vaccinate or socialize correctly. You will find that there are the same issues in German Kennels as there are in American kennels. For example I learned right before a purchase of a GDS here in Germany, that the breeder from the stud switched out his male dog to get a better hip ratting with another dog. This was a shock for many people as that person is a fairly respected breeder. The point is, problems can happen no matter where you live. For me, the lesson I learned was to find a breeder I trust and is willing to disclose the good and bad.

If you have your heart set on the American Kennel who is importing, ask to speak with owners who have owned their puppies longer than 2 years. I might take it a step further and call to speak with the parents Vets in Germany. Most medical professionals speak English so that should not be an issue.

I live in Heidelberg Germany, and I am only sharing my personal observations from what I am learning in searching for a GDS here.

Good Luck,
Amy

Thanks, Amy!

I had tried to email him, but he never wrote back, so I figured there might be a language barrier. Guess not, I'll try again. Also, great advice and insight. I'll definitely keep it in mind. What was your experience in talking to this particular breeder?