Top quality breeder in Canada

[melissa246]

I'm very inexperienced concerning this breed or concerning any breed, but I do know I love the GSD. I've been reading the forums and different websites trying to educate myself. It seems like a lot of people think gsd from germany are the best and not the show dogs from the american lines. They also say that show dogs wouldn't even qualify for Schutzhund.... which seems reasonable to me since the gsd i've seen from shows appeared to be in such pain when walking because of the extreme angulations of their backs, their back legs seemed so weak, it was just terrible to watch.

I don't have any strong opinions about that but I do know that I don't want a gsd like the ones i've seen in those shows. I need a strong, athletic dog, with solid hips (yes i know that this breed in particular is prone to hip dyslexia) and muscular legs, who can be trained for shutzhund. Bacially as close to the original gsd from germany as possible.

I know that the average joe would probably suffice with the family dogs alot of breeders breed these days, but since I've decided to invest in a gsd, I might as well get the best one i could possibly get.

Having that said, do you know any quality canadian breeders? If not, would you recommend an american breeder? At the moment I cannot afford importing a puppy from a (quality) german breeder, perhaps in the future.
(like i said I do not know much about this breed, I do not know whether a gsd from a german breeder is better than a gsd from the american lines. Even if a german breeder breeds "better" dogs, i can't really afford one at the moment )

[Castlemaid]

You can find some good dogs being bred here in Canada and in the States. What area are you in? That will help with the recommendations. If you will be doing Schutzhund, contact the club you plan to join, and talk to them about your plans, they will be able to give you some info on where to get a puppy from.

[robk]

I am sure with research you will find more than enough quality breeders in Canada. I have seen a few dogs from Von Narnia Kennels in Canada and I like them a lot.

[melissa246]

Originally Posted by robk

I am sure with research you will find more than enough quality breeders in Canada. I have seen a few dogs from Von Narnia Kennels in Canada and I like them a lot.

I don't mean to sound rude but, like i stated above i'm fairly inexperienced when it comes to this breed. Of course I have researched every canadian breeder i could find, but the thing is, I cannot distinguish which one is the best choice for the traits I want my dog to have.

[melissa246]

Originally Posted by Castlemaid

You can find some good dogs being bred here in Canada and in the States. What area are you in? That will help with the recommendations. If you will be doing Schutzhund, contact the club you plan to join, and talk to them about your plans, they will be able to give you some info on where to get a puppy from.

I'm in BC, southern BC. I'm most certainly interested in Schutzhund. Thanks for the idea, i'll try to research some local clubs and find out what they recommend as well.

[Castlemaid]

I saw your other thread about Broomacres. I don't personally know anything about them, but I do see Broomacres dogs listed in Schutzhund trial results, so there are people who are having good success with them.

Are you in the lower mainland? Are you looking for a working line dog?

[JeanKBBMMMAAN]

Originally Posted by melissa246

I don't have any strong opinions about that but I do know that I don't want a gsd like the ones i've seen in those shows. I need a strong, athletic dog, with solid hips (yes i know that this breed in particular is prone to hip dyslexia) and muscular legs, who can be trained for shutzhund. Bacially as close to the original gsd from germany as possible.

I know that the average joe would probably suffice with the family dogs alot of breeders breed these days, but since I've decided to invest in a gsd, I might as well get the best one i could possibly get.

Having that said, do you know any quality canadian breeders? If not, would you recommend an american breeder? At the moment I cannot afford importing a puppy from a (quality) german breeder, perhaps in the future.
(like i said I do not know much about this breed, I do not know whether a gsd from a german breeder is better than a gsd from the american lines. Even if a german breeder breeds "better" dogs, i can't really afford one at the moment )

You also want to ask about elbows, skin, eye, heart and GI things that can really impact the dog's quality of life. So talk overall health and not just hips. I think a lot of "breeders" have figured out that hips are a big point and a lot of consumers don't realize the overall health issues that the breed has, that they should be asking about that will be worse than a case of Mild HD. Not that there are any guarantees with puppies, but if the person producing the dog hasn't looked far back at the health of the dogs being bred, then they are not looking very far ahead.

[melissa246]

Originally Posted by Castlemaid

I saw your other thread about Broomacres. I don't personally know anything about them, but I do see Broomacres dogs listed in Schutzhund trial results, so there are people who are having good success with them.

Are you in the lower mainland? Are you looking for a working line dog?

I'm in vancouver and yup i'm looking for a working line gsd.
As for broomeacres, i was in contact with them the past couple of weeks or so and the breeder/s didn't show an interest in what I do or if I would be able to care for a gsd, it was more like me telling them what I wanted and them replying with "we do have up coming litters, i'd recommend you put down a deposit so that we can reserve a puppy for you" yet they were quick to provide payment options and information when asked.
Even though I was fairly specific as to what I wanted in a dog they gave me generic replies basically just stating some of the known traits of the gsd, never providing any information on the dogs they have for breeding. And like some of the forum users said on my other post, they said their "brags" were outdated or didnt apply to the current dogs they have for breeding, that is true as well, there's really nothing special about the dogs they have for breeding at the moment and I see no Schutzhund titles in those dogs either. In my opinion 1500 cad for puppies with no schutzhund in their bloodlines is kinda overpriced. I'm not saying they're bad, i just think there are better breeders out there.

[Castlemaid]

Ugh, I would look elsewhere too.

There are several Schutzhund clubs in the Vancouver area.

They are listed here from the GSSCC (German Shepherd Schutzhund Club of Canada) web site, with locations and contact info:
http://www.gsscc.ca/regions-and-clubs/west.aspx

I would contact them and introduce yourself and explain what you are looking for and ask for suggestions for a breeder. Some of the club members may be breeding their dogs and may have what you are looking for.

Don't know the clubs really well, but I do know some people a bit, mostly because we sometimes have people from the lower mainland come here to give us seminars, but not sure which club they are in (others in my club would do the booking/organizing, I'd just show up.) Also just so you know, the Western Rescue Schutzhund Club is mostly show-lines, so I'd contact the other clubs first.

Otherwise, in your area, but not in Canada, I would recommend Suzanne Eviston in Washington:

German Shepherd Breeder | Police Dogs | Schutzhund | Washington USA | BC Canada

We have a few dogs of hers in the club, and a couple are dogs members are raising for her breeding program. She often travels to Vancouver and may be able to deliver your puppy in person if you so choose it.

[Emoore]

I'll go ahead and say it since nobody else has. It's obvious you're new and trying to learn and just haven't learned this yet, but it's hip dysplasia, not hip dyslexia. Not trying to be mean or rude, just trying to be helpful.