Help finding the right breeder!

[xsaysayx]

Hi! Within the next few years I'm going to be adopting a GSD, and I want to decide on a breeder before then to build a relationship.
I'm looking for a West German Line breeder, who does Schutzhund with their dogs, produces (of course) red and black pups, and the bigger the dogs, the better.
I intend to get a red/black male pup, and to do schutzhund with him, as well as agility, CGC, rally-o, and anything else I (and him!) become interested in!
I've been looking at a few breeders and tried contacting them but they either haven't been what I'm looking for or haven't gotten back to me.

I've been looking at this breeder. He seems to have what I'm looking for, but I'd really like some experts to give me their opinion on him.
I know his dogs are healthy, sound, and amazing with schutzhund. He's also very nice from what I could tell by talking on the phone with him shortly, but like I said, I'd like an experts opinion.
Here is the website.
German Shepherd Breeders, Trained German Shepherds, Imports, Puppies For Sale, West German Shepherd Training

Also, if any of you guys are breeders and produce the types of pup I'm looking for, I'd love to learn more.
Thanks in advance!

[Danielle609]

I am in no way "qualified" to give a professional opinion, but I did search his name and a few threads came up. They all basically say he is more of a broker than a breeder. He imports the puppies from Germany and then sell them here. Not saying that their is anything bad with that, just telling you what came out of the other threads. I am not able to give you any references because I am on the "hunt" and will be checking out a breeder in a couple of weeks. If you don't mind me asking in there a certain "area" you are looking at, or are you willing to have a puppy shipped? This will help anyone that is able to give references.

On a side note, you said "The bigger, the better" But after being on this forum for a few months I think you Will find many that will tell you that a reputable breeder will not breed for size. There is a standard when it comes to size, and all reputable breeders are breeding to try to conform to the standard. Just though I would throw that out there Good luck with your search!!

[JakodaCD OA]

what state are you located in? this might help with people offering suggestions.

Chris Wild comes to mind, she is a member here, however, size will not come into the equation

[Ace952]

A "few years" is a long time away. Why look to get locked into 1 or 2 breeders? A lot of things will change in a few years.

[Danielle609]

Originally Posted by Ace952

A "few years" is a long time away. Why look to get locked into 1 or 2 breeders? A lot of things will change in a few years.

Just for the sake of a friendly debate...Why not? He said within a few years, and IMHO I don't think a few years is really that long. I think it is a good idea to find a reputable breeder that you like early on. That way you can keep in communication, and they will keep you up to date with litters and pairings. It could even take a couple of years (or so I have heard) for a breeder to have a puppy that would fit a person's/families needs. So I personally see nothing wrong with this. I plan on getting a puppy within the next couple of years and plan on doing the same thing. You are right that a lot can happen, but lets say he finds a breeder and for some reason they decide not to breed anymore, as long as he didn't put a deposit down, what really is he out then? Just time spent researching, but if the breeder were that good to begin with, I am sure they would be able to lead the person to another reputable breeder that they would trust. That is just my train of thinking

[xsaysayx]

Originally Posted by Danielle609

I am in no way "qualified" to give a professional opinion, but I did search his name and a few threads came up. They all basically say he is more of a broker than a breeder. He imports the puppies from Germany and then sell them here. Not saying that their is anything bad with that, just telling you what came out of the other threads. I am not able to give you any references because I am on the "hunt" and will be checking out a breeder in a couple of weeks. If you don't mind me asking in there a certain "area" you are looking at, or are you willing to have a puppy shipped? This will help anyone that is able to give references.

On a side note, you said "The bigger, the better" But after being on this forum for a few months I think you Will find many that will tell you that a reputable breeder will not breed for size. There is a standard when it comes to size, and all reputable breeders are breeding to try to conform to the standard. Just though I would throw that out there Good luck with your search!!

I'm in the Virginia area but I'm willing to travel and/or ship a pup, even from out of the country. Whatever it takes.
And I know (: I just mean, it's not a priority, but as far as the standard goes I like the males on the larger end of the scale. I love big dogs, haha.
From what I know from talking about him, it's like this. He is part of a kennel that's actually located IN Germany, and the pups he imports are from that kennel. So basically he's part of a small kennel in Germany but he resides here I suppose well, because he wants to, and to populate the US with his dogs.
He's a REALLY nice man and he knows what he's talking about, but I'm definitely not going to decide on the first nice breeder I meet :P

[xsaysayx]

Originally Posted by JakodaCD OA

what state are you located in? this might help with people offering suggestions.

Chris Wild comes to mind, she is a member here, however, size will not come into the equation

Virginia/North Carolina. Right on the border.
I see her kennel site. She breeds beautiful dogs, however I'm definitely set on a red and black and all I see are sable and black.

[xsaysayx]

Originally Posted by Danielle609

Just for the sake of a friendly debate...Why not? He said within a few years, and IMHO I don't think a few years is really that long. I think it is a good idea to find a reputable breeder that you like early on. That way you can keep in communication, and they will keep you up to date with litters and pairings. It could even take a couple of years (or so I have heard) for a breeder to have a puppy that would fit a person's/families needs. So I personally see nothing wrong with this. I plan on getting a puppy within the next couple of years and plan on doing the same thing. You are right that a lot can happen, but lets say he finds a breeder and for some reason they decide not to breed anymore, as long as he didn't put a deposit down, what really is he out then? Just time spent researching, but if the breeder were that good to begin with, I am sure they would be able to lead the person to another reputable breeder that they would trust. That is just my train of thinking

That's what I think (: I just REALLY want to build a relationship with a (or some) breeders, so that when the time is right they'll not only trust me and I'll trust them, and they'll help me get experience with the breed! I plan to go to sieger shows and schutzhund shows, as well as make a few trips to some breeders I do find a liking for in the area. I'm just making sure I do NOT rush into this breed, especially with all I intend to do with it. I'm not going to attempt to buy until I'm 110% ready. (:!

[Freestep]

Originally Posted by Danielle609

Just for the sake of a friendly debate...Why not? He said within a few years, and IMHO I don't think a few years is really that long. I think it is a good idea to find a reputable breeder that you like early on. That way you can keep in communication, and they will keep you up to date with litters and pairings. It could even take a couple of years (or so I have heard) for a breeder to have a puppy that would fit a person's/families needs. So I personally see nothing wrong with this.

Totally agree. I knew my breeder for a couple of years before getting a pup from her. It's totally worth your while to get involved in the scene before getting a puppy, that way you get to actually SEE people's dogs and what they are producing, and can get an idea of what you want or don't want.

[JakodaCD OA]

you could also check johnshaus,,Carolina is a member here, lovely dogs and she's in your neck of the woods