Well hello there. I am "with" Cliff on this one.
Horror of horrors I advertised on kijiji . In fact it was a contact from kijiji which brought me to this great little forum. thanks for that .
When you get as old as Cliff and I you realize that times and things have changed. I had this converstation with psd Mike some time ago. You have to constantly adapt to social changes. When I started out the local newspaper had thick and journalistically excellent news magazines as part of the Saturday paper . There was a section dedicated to adverts , including the go to place for "pets - large livestock". Now you have a barely literate group of news jockeys , no indepth . You have the ads section on the weekend a single page here or there as thin as tissue paper.
Magazines and newspapers are having a difficult time - vanishing . Everything is on line. So where are the on line ads. Kijiji is one. I am not crazy about it , resisted for a long long time because it does have the connotation of bargain basement , discount mall dealing . People do use these sites and so you become accessible . Times are changing . We have to adapt .
I only have one to two litters a year.
That means if I put an ad in the Dogs Annual , then I have enquiries all year long which I respond to - so valuable time, and money on the ad. If I put an ad in with a gorgeous professional picture (Mark Raycroft) then I have people that want a dog EXACTLY like that -- colour oriented . I have even had people be specific about the "pumpkin seeds" above the eyebrows on some of the dark dogs. Sheesh. So no pictures. But you are competing with pictures .
Then there are people whose criterion of excellence is that the dog is black and tan , black and red. Go away . Yes getting short . I could have the worlds "most superest cape wearing hero dog " , oh but it is sable , so it is not a gsd.
So should you advertise in Dog World or Dog Fancy for the snobbery . Who on this forum buys these magazines?
In the magazines you would afford a few lines which get buried by attention grabbing two page centerfold full colour glossy black and red "team" show producing kennels which keep on breeding first generation dogs. Do you know what those pages cost every month . Thousands . In a reverse psychology that means these people are good because they can demand $$$ 's and can afford the $$$'s for the ads. That has nothing to do with quality.
Pedigree data base is on line , internet advertising. I have used it to buy . Got outstanding pups from Parchimer Land that put up a link -- so glad they did. Now how do we find foreign dogs for sale? That is one of the advantages of on line .
So Dharmasmom -- good luck . Because you put an ad somewhere does not mean you approve of every one else advertising in the same place. I am the first to bring out the cannons of disapproval for some of the things going on in the breed. I have no knowledge of the ebay thing . A dog is not merchandise . A very thorough screening process is used. With my Nov 3 litter I turned away 4 or 5 people -- . I am very selective . However if ebay was just a place to get the name out there to have people contact you I have no problem. On the other hand has no one ever visited a web site of really well known "breeders" who have a handy PayPal link to pay for the dog ??? I have . There are lots of breeders / kennels out there that are pretty commercial -- one of which , (no longer breeding) had waiting lists and you did not even have a choice of which litter your pup came from . You paid your bucks you took a number and when your number came up a pup of the right gender was chosen for you . yes . So the motto come on and come all has nothing to do with where a dog is advertised. I don't support pet-shop mentality. Say it again -- a dog is not a commodity .
My dogs don't sell for $2,500 or $3,000 or $6,000 as some have said they have spent.
I can not get my head around people choosing their dog out of a litter when the pup is only 2 weeks old. I would not allow that. That is lazy. Lazy. Commodifiy the pup. A widget on a shelf. If and when I have a litter and I have interested parties they can come out and socialize with the pups in my house when they are about 5 weeks of age. In other words when the pup is able to display some dynamics. I can sit back and I can evaluate the pups basic personality, allow me to have long discussions with the people , get to know them. Then we reserve a pup a male or a female but have not finalized it till the pups are older.
So let us take a step back in time. Litters were bred because someone needed a dog themselves as a replacement. Let's use the GSD . Some proud hard working shepherd had a very fine female that was out in the fields working away. A working partner dog may have had some age creeping up and was soon due to retire . So said shepherd may have had his eye on a fellow shepherd guild member who had a superior hard working male herding dog. A breeding was agreed on , litter is born, each shepherd picks one or two pups and the rest taken to the Saturday market in wicker basket for sale.
good and interesting conversation in this thread
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