Monroe Haus in RI

[Bowdoin1998]

Anyone have any experience with this breeder? My last pup, Bowdoin passed away a couple months ago at the age of ten and I am looking to find a good breeder in NE. I am looking for a West German Red/Black GSD and this breeder seems to have beautiful dogs but I can't find a lot of info on them. Thanks

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[sit,stay]

I have no information on this particular kennel, but I own a dog whose dam is a litter-mate to Andrjuscha van Noort (a dog listed on their "Males" page).
Sheilah

[MaggieRoseLee]

They look like they are German 'show' lines rather than working lines.

Make sure you have really read up on this part of the forum, that way you'll be much better prepared when looking at any breeder Things to look for in a 'Responsible' Breeder (click that).

Breed Types & Related Families talks about some of the different 'flavors' of the breed.
and German Shepherd Dog Photos and information for Breed Types and Characteristics

[koda00]

www.traumhofgsd.com This is where i got my Ryker from "P" litter Poseidon Vom Traumhof. Good luck! Townsend, Ma

[Whiteshepherds]

Originally Posted by MaggieRoseLee

They look like they are German 'show' lines rather than working lines.

Did you happen to look at the links for their males and females? Most of them seem to have Schutzhund titles. Showlines that work maybe?

[MaggieRoseLee]

Originally Posted by Whiteshepherds

Did you happen to look at the links for their males and females? Most of them seem to have Schutzhund titles. Showlines that work maybe?

In Germany you can't breed show or working line GSD's unless they have a Sch title. So both 'show' and 'working' dogs in German have that Sch title. Course there are arguments about the tests being harder or easier or..... depending on the dogs you like

Chances are, if the dogs are red/black with a saddle and a curve in their topline, they are German showlines (with Sch titles). Look at these Seiger winners from 2009, definitely the same 'type' http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...ults/2009.html



Chances are if they are all different colors (lot's of sables/blacks/bi's) with a straight topline they are German working (with Sch titles). This site has the 'working' line winners http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...ults/2009.html

[Castlemaid]

Originally Posted by Whiteshepherds

Did you happen to look at the links for their males and females? Most of them seem to have Schutzhund titles. Showlines that work maybe?

In Germany, all GSDs must have OFA and at least a SchH1 to be bred. Showlines too. Having titles does not change the lines they come from.

I trained my mixed breed in Schutzhund, and she has the obedience and tracking titles from Schutzhund and completed the 12.5 mile AD endurance run, and I may have been able to title her to full SchH1 if I really pursued it (our helper feels that she could title), but that does not make her a working line GSD, just a mutt with a lot of training on her.

It is very common for people to see the SchH titles and think the dogs are from working lines, but the lines are based on the pedigree.

[sit,stay]

Yes, the dogs from this kennel are West German Showlines.
Sheilah

[Whiteshepherds]

Originally Posted by Castlemaid

It is very common for people to see the SchH titles and think the dogs are from working lines, but the lines are based on the pedigree.

Thanks Castlemaid and MaggieRoseLee!
So for us non SV educated people can you explain that a little more because it's really confusing?

If I look at two lines and both lines seem to have an equal number of Sch titles running through the pedigree, is it just the looks that tell me which is a working line and which is a show line, or should we be looking for other titles besides Sch? (not talking about this particular breeder btw, just lines in general)

[MaggieRoseLee]

Nothing to do with the Sch title to tell if a German dog is 'working' or 'show'. They ALL need at least a Sch 1 to be used for breeding.

Look at the links with the champions I posted with the 2 photos. Look at the PHOTOS! They are really to 'type' so that after a time you can just look at the dogs in a stack.