Sue I'm not going to comment on that particular case because it's not appropriate. What the two videos show is not the whole story. I'm not condoning what the woman did (and I haven't watched the videos, don't need to). Beyond that it's not really a public matter because the public doesn't know all the facts.
I will say that until you've had to deal with a child that is basically a sociopath it's really easy to say a 7 year old can't put himself and others in extreme danger and that it should be easy enough for adults to intervene. Some of the criticisms in this thread already illustrate the very reason why most times teachers and admin cannot intervene sooner - because people threaten to sue and call cops and call CPS if anyone lays a hand on a kid for any reason. You would not believe what parents insist for their child when it's so opposite of what the child really needs but as illustrated in this thread, pretty much anything a parent demands, goes, even when the teacher is the one with 10 years of education and more years of experience in the field. Most parents are *not* demanding that their kid be in a special school; most parents demand the opposite - that their kid is normal and needs to be in a normal classroom where the kid consistently puts himself and others at risk. There's a big difference between being an advocate for your child and just plain being crazy. My mom has to get several kids off the bus at her daycare because they are in 5-point harnesses on the bus but most parents would rather insist their kid is "just being a kid" and doesn't have problems then are willing to actually deal with the problems so their kid is safe and can be educated.
10 years of education? Really? I mean, out here it takes a BS degree and you can get one in 3 if you cram, 4 if you are average, and maybe 5 if you go for a Master's too. There are not a lot of doctors in education save at the university level.
As for the vid of the kid on the bus, that was enough. Sorry, I really don't care about what was behind slamming the kid into the bus windows and wall, she picked him up and threw him into the wall. No way. There is just nothing you can say to justify that crap. And bus monitors do not have 10 years of education, unless you are counting grade school and high school.
When my mother was diagnosed with cancer, her brother's wife came out and she stopped in the parking lot and we were talking, and she wanted for me to express my feelings about it. I actually considered what I said. This was my mother's brother's second wife, and it's not like I knew her when I was a kid or anything. We weren't close, she was only about 4 years older than me.
But she was an unknown quantity and I thought about it, and I said that I wished the doctor had ordered a colonoscopy. That was it. She argued with me. She told me they did. She told me my parents talk to her about stuff like that -- really???? She was furious that I did not take it back.
She went away and called me that night and tried to get me to recant. Then she said she was my aunt and I should not have talked to her that way. Mom has been cancer free for about 7 years, so I was way into my thirties when this happened. She also told my parents that I screamed and yelled at her and chased her down the road. They were both out on the porch during our conversation. They would have saw that, if it had happened.
Anyway, I realized later that night what the issue was. Her husband is a doctor and she is a nurse. She literally could not take criticism at all of someone in their field.
Let's face it, there are a LOT of doctors out there that aren't the cream of the crop, with a whole lot more education than teachers. There are teachers that are should not be teachers. There are bus monitors that shouldn't be bus monitors. There are breeders who should not be breeders. There are veterinarians that should not be veterinarians. There are police officers that should not be police officers.
I can understand giving the benefit of the doubt, and trying to look at the whole of information before tarring and feathering someone. But sometimes, there is just no scenarios that can justify some things. And throwing a 7 year old into a wall is one of them.
Yeh, my aunt is crazy. It was kind of an extreme example.
There are tons of teachers out there. And tons of school employees out there. With that population of people you are going to have a percentage that aren't so great. Those people do not need to be defended. They need to be exposed and removed from teaching. I am talking about people who are actually abusive, not people who need to be moved to a different class or given some coaching.
I think with teachers, and with school employees, it is tougher because we CAN'T be there every moment to ensure that our kids are not being mistreated. And even if a seven year old is a future anti-social sociopath, he is no match for an adult.