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Old 11-29-2012, 12:37 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I can maybe help on the force feeding. I had a cat that went into liver failure and I had to force feed him for 6 wks until he was recovered enough to want to even look at food. I refused to allow a feeding tube - too many complications with them, plus anaesthesia - so I went the syringe route.

It is a mess, and the cat will be furious/upset but it has to be done if they won't eat on their own. I was force feeding small amounts 6-8 times a day. It was the only way to get enough food into him. I'd force feed the slippery elm about 30 min in advance so the food didn't come right back up (only needed to do this part twice a day). I ended up watering down canned cat food. Get whatever has a smooth texture and works for pancreatitis, since that is the current suspect. Add water and mix until it will pass easily through a syringe (you need a high capacity syringe, you don't want to have to re-fill). You do not want a blockage and have to force it through. Think the Vesuvius of cat food .

Wrap the cat tightly in a towel or other tough/thick material with only his head sticking out. Take care to trap the legs so you don't get scratched. Even my total mush of a cat fought and accidentally ripped me up a couple of times trying to get away. Cradle the cat on his back in your lap, hold his head as best you can with one hand, and insert the syringe in the corner of his mouth. Slowly squirt the food in so he has time to swallow. Try to get it past his tongue and into the back of his throat so he has little choice. It may help you to gently hold the jaws closed around the syringe, it did not help me and just seemed to upset my cat even more, if that is possible. There will be head twisting and spitting. Sound and fury. Food will get everywhere, including all over you. Try to estimate how much food went down the cat as opposed to everywhere else and adjust the rest of the feedings accordingly. The most important thing is to get enough food into the cat that he won't loose weight quickly - that's what seems to trigger hepatic lipidosis.

Good luck. I hope you get a positive diagnosis soon and that it isn't FIP. Had a cat with that, too . Picked it up at the vet, ironically enough.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:06 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I put Cleo on the couch next to me and between me and the back of the couch. I sat her up and I put pillows in front of and behind her b/c aspiration is a real danger if you're using a syringe.

Later, I started assist feeding her twice a day, every day (for over a year) to be sure she got enough food into her and the supplements she needed. I used my finger instead of a syringe and put a bib on her and held her in front of me and between my legs. She got used to it. She never was happy about it but she got used to it and it really improved her quality of life.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:41 PM   #53 (permalink)
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How is Snack doing today? I did vet run number three with my ex's dog today (also not eating!) so I understand the stress!
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:41 PM   #54 (permalink)
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What a day! Started with more xrays. Then an "inconclusive" ultrasound. They want to do exploratory surgery tomorrow. I keep asking questions to try to help make decisions and am really getting nothing. I asked about the SNAP test- I was told that at this point she had been symptomatic for so many days that she would automatically show as having issues just from the stress and inflammation. They said it would really be nothing. Why did she return to normal for almost 24 hours in the middle of all this?

I am losing my faith in the drs. Not once has any of them suggested I make sure she eats! What would I do with out a german shepherd board????
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:50 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Did you find slippery elm or nux vomica?

Are you able to get the pepcid in her?

This is my opinion only but I would concentrate on getting bland food into her, giving SubQs, probiotics and slippery elm. I went through this so many times with Cleo and really all of that gas is very painful and nausea makes them feel crappy so see if you can address the known issues first (gas and empty, painful stomach) and go from there. I would not do exploratory surgery, especially now.

Who read the ultrasound?
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:55 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Kudos to all of you who are trying to help this poor cat, on a GSD forum. That is really something else...sure says a lot about us GSD owners
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:27 PM   #57 (permalink)
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We went to a specialty hospital for the ultra sound and then back to our vet- so presumably their specialists. As I think about it, what I am being told is likely my vet's interpretation of the report they received.
I have not found slippery elm. I live about 5 minutes to an hours from a Wegmans.. specialty vet made it about 2 hours away. I need to get my husband to stay with kitty so I can go to the store. I called the only "health goods"store I found remotely close to me-they did not stock slippery elm. I live pretty far south in NJ...not near anything (not even the ubiquitus exit- I would need to drive an hour or more to get to one) and it is very frustrating. We have given her pepcid in between vet visits but it had no effect.

I declined to allow them to have her overnight (they have no night staff so I don't know how they overnight patients.) She is on Girl's bed. She stretched herself out along the side of girl and is purring up a storm. We force fed her a little bit ago as she showed no interest in any offerings.

She has not vomited today that I am aware of- of course she really hasn't eaten either. Every time she gets fluids they absorb super fast and I really worry about keeping her hydrated.

I pureed some chicken with pumpkin- do you think this is bland enough?
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Doctor just called. She now has a fever. They have her on fluids and started her on baytril. I am completely PANICKED.
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Well, Baytril is a pretty big gun, and I guess they are using it to get the temp down? Do they think she has infection?

One thing with the Baytril - ask what the dose is. I love the med, think it does wonders, but along with all NSAIDs (even ones they say might be safe for cats - I will never give a cat an NSAID) I ask about it because in high doses in a few cats it can cause blindness. It's rare, but if there is another abx, my vets use it. Now, she may need it, and they probably have her at a regular dose so that would take care of that, but always good to let them know that you are reading and keeping an eye on things. Baytril, Blindness, and Your Cat - SPCA International

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I really hope they give you some information on the things they think are wrong.

With something like an intuccusseption (spelled wrong) where the intestine telescopes, it can go in an out - when it's in the normal position the animal acts fine, when it goes back over itself, they get sick again.
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She is back at the clinic?
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