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martemchik 11-21-2012 08:15 PM

Interesting Observation...timing
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So has anyone noticed how the timing of the post really affects what people either post, or what people post without being called out for being "negative" or "rude"?

I've noticed two of these situations:

1) Buying a dog...if the dog is purchased, its already home and the person posts "look how cool my dog is!" No one ask where it came from, and even if the OP posts where they got the dog from, no one attacks the breeder or bothers to comment on the "sub-par" breeding or the questionable decision to go with a breeder. But if the person asks about a breeder, its usually a free for all for everyone to look for any minor "red flag" and call the breeder out for whatever that poster doesn't believe is a good practice.

2) Breeding your dog...someone asks about possibly studding/having a litter with their female. They get ripped apart, and I think we all expect that at this point as the first post after the OP is usually :popcorn:. But...if that person says, breeding has happened, people are more than willing to help this person learn everything there is to know about whelping a litter. Once in a while someone chimes in with a, please neuter/spay after this, but in reality it probably doesn't happen.

To tell the was the recent post from the guy that imported what everyone considered a "green dog" from Germany. I'm not attacking that OP, or the people that posted there, but there is at least 1 post on every page about how people are "being negative." I kept thinking...well its because the dog is already ordered/paid for and the decision has been made that they believe that. If the OP had posted for advice before the purchase was made, no one would've cared that those things are said about that dog. It would've been the same "truth" but because of when it comes out, it is kind of looked down on and looked at as "taboo" on the forum.

Anyone else notice these "timing" issues. Why is it that we're not really allowed to speak the truth or tell the facts after certain things happen?

qbchottu 11-21-2012 08:27 PM

A couple of things:
For #1: once it is already home and the buyer advertises what kennel it is from, we cannot per board rules say anything negative about the breeder in public. If you remember, nobody said anything negative about the breeder and in fact, most said the breeder was quite clear with the quality of dog being sold as video was provided. At that point, it also isn't worth (most times) to point that out to the buyer. I have in the past pointed out to the buyer that I would not personally stand for how they were being treated for example. The board is restrictive in what we can say in terms of being negative so when someone asks for suggestions, you PM them and tell them the negative. When they announce they already got it, what is the point?

For #2: Nobody that we would call a "good" breeder will ask for the board's permission on if they should breed their dog or not. They do the breeding and every so often post a cute litter picture or two. Most people who ask for advice on breeding or studding usually are not even at the point where that should be an option for them. Most people that breed ethically have a good mentor or two that they get guidance from. They don't really need to reach out to this forum of (this is not derogatory) made up for people that are not breeders or active competitors for the most part. It's basically the idea that if you have to ask a bunch of strangers if your dog is worth breeding, it probably isn't worth breeding.

Whiteshepherds 11-22-2012 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by qbchottu (Post 2636175)
When they announce they already got it, what is the point?

:thumbup: (and the rest of her post too)

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