Need HELP...not a lecture!
 

my husband has a friend that has a lot of land who is starting a farm and he (the friend) wants to breed his female to our male so that he can keep the ENTIRE LITTER and have them run around the farm and be farm animals.
I know better.
Can someone please give me some information I can pass onto my husband? He thinks I am being absurd by stating that this is a horrible horrible idea. I am tired of telling him the information I know, so if someone has information directly related to keeping an ENTIRE litter (just not two dogs) please show me so I can show him!

I agree, it's a horrible, horrible idea. Is this guy planning to get the entire litter spayed and neutered? What if it's a litter of 14 puppies? I would simply, flat out refuse to be a party to it, but if he doesn't use your male, he'll probably be able to find another.

A pack of untrained farmdog littermates running wild on a ranch is just about the worst idea I can think of.

yeah, I've already refused and told him it goes against everything I believe in. Furthermore as much as I love my dog he has traits I would NOT want passed on (one testical dropped, he's a bully) he is very smart and effectionate. But we've never had his hips and elbows tested etc.

I brought up the spay/neuter thing and all he did was shrug his shoulders and say wild dogs have been breeding for way longer than humans have **rolled eyes**.
I asked him what if something happened to the farm where would the dogs go? would we be willing to take in a few so they don't get sent to random people. He then proceeded to tell me I was a random person that got a dog from a breeder.
NOTHING IS THOUGHT OUT.
It's driving me insane. I'd like to think he wouldn't go through with it if I was this upset.

Oh, as for the guy he's very sweet and would spend time with them and "train" them (i use that lightly). He already has 3 dogs at his house here in town; he takes very good care of them. He just has no idea what he's getting himself with this.

Need HELP...not a lecture!
 

I'm no expert, but from the posts I've read about raising a litter of puppies, it's extremely expensive! Is this guy rich? Because he's going to have to spend so much in vaccinations, vet checks, and FOOD. So much food! I can't imagine feeding more than a few GSD's, let alone a litter of 8-14 growing GSD pups!

It would cost way less to adopt that many adult GSD's, who've already been vetted. Maybe he thinks if they are litter mates there won't be any aggression issues amongst males/females? If that's it, he's wrong. Two brothers are just as likely to rip into each other over a female in heat. Can you imagine several females in heat? Living on the same property, sharing the same males? That's pretty much a disgusting and inhumane version of survivor.

I would start by doing searches for litter-mate aggression or something of the sort. I bet you could find stuff about that. I'm sure someone could argue that pack order would be established and they would grow up with it, but i would imagine you could still have some pretty serious scraps between siblings if there's breeding in the mix. Good luck!


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Something else to think about, often times same sex litter mates(especially females) will not get along after they reach maturity, may even try to kill each other. If he doesn't spay and neuter them he's going to end up with A LOT of inbred dogs that nobody wants and then how will he feed them all?

I can't believe an adult is being this impulsive and just not thinking of the consequences.

If he is starting a working farm dogs wild or otherwise are one of the largest predators of small livestock there is. anything up to the size of a calf would be fair game for a pack of barely trained GSD sized dogs.

All I can think of is that the pack would truly be wild, and may pack up and kill a human. Way to go to further the cause of BSL!

what ? he's being absurd thinking it's a good idea.

that was my first thought too

I didn't think about that, good point.

When I was growing up I used to spend the summers with my dad, when he lived in Georgia out in the boonies there was this pack of dogs that roamed, some of them were pets and the people didn't care enough about them to keep them contained.

Anyways this pack terrified me and anytime I saw the coming I would get back in the house, I had no idea what they were capable of and at this point I had never owned a dog in my life and was clueless about them... I think my instincts saved me from getting bitten or worse.

Every once in a while a dog would disappear and you'd know that he'd probably been shot by a hunter, they and farmers generally won't tolerate them and will kill them. If he's going to do it anyways is he at least going to keep them contained?(not that they couldn't find a way to break out). This is another thing to mention, they could kill or seriously injure someone and that would be on him.