Hoping a breeder can help... weird

VaBeachFamily · 02-03-2013, 12:45 AM

I know, it's a bit off, but I felt like this area would be best for the right people to see this post...

My sister has a 5 year old deaf Australian Shepherd. She was adopted two years ago and was an only dog for a long time. She was SAID to have been a spayed female, and nobody ever questioned that ( I mean, seriously, why lie?). There has never been blood or really signs of heat, and she never put a second thought into it.

She acquired a male pug pup this year, and then took on his "unwanted" brother. They are both un-altered as she wants to novice show one, and the other is still being " held" until the owner either takes it back or hands over papers, at which point she can make that decision. This didn't seem to be an issue except... they started acting a little overinterested in her Aussie for a week or so. We checked, no swelling, no blood, etc. Well, this is a dog in tip top shape. Shorter coat, nice tummy tucked in, tight skin, etc. Now, this heat was in December, and please don't give negative feedback because she leaves them to play in the yard when she washed dishes, etc. Never witnessed a tie, humping, but... well thinking she was spayed...

Anyways, back to the real issue. Out of nowhere last week, the female's whole belly dropped, not in a fat way, but her nipples and surrounding area are sagging, and she looks like a dog that just whelped. She hasn't, and she isn't producing milk. We felt around, no lumps... does ANYONE have any idea what would cause this? I hate asking questions that make me sound like a complete dunce, and I only have limited information unless I relay and ask her as I don't own the dogs... Thanks guys

wolfy dog · 02-03-2013, 01:11 AM

Vet visit.

Mrs.P · 02-03-2013, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfy dog

Vet visit.

KZoppa · 02-03-2013, 01:46 AM

Definitely a vet visit.

**JakodaCD OA** · 02-03-2013, 07:32 AM

definitely a vet visit, if she IS spayed, it could be a false pregnancy.

WVGSD · 02-03-2013, 09:10 PM

Sounds like a false pregnancy, but get to a vet and your sister might want to have the female x-rayed just to be sure.

**JeanKBBMMMAAN** · 02-03-2013, 10:01 PM

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Now, this heat was in December, and please don't give negative feedback because she leaves them to play in the yard when she washed dishes, etc. Never witnessed a tie, humping, but... well thinking she was spayed...

So she was in heat??? Or no?

Ask them to shave her belly at the vet as well to see if there are any signs of a spay scar if they feel it might still show.

Canine False Pregnancy

Now, if she is not spayed, she still can be regardless asap.

VaBeachFamily · 02-04-2013, 09:05 AM

Never showed physical signs of heat, but the boy dogs acted like it. They are young... prob about 8 months at that time. I will let her know to take her to a vet. She is acting normally, only change is the physical saggy-ness

VaBeachFamily · 02-04-2013, 09:06 AM

Also, no actual lactating. It's the areas around the nipples, where they would sag, but not full, it's all completely empty!

02-03-2013, 12:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
VaBeachFamily Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,384	Hoping a breeder can help... weird I know, it's a bit off, but I felt like this area would be best for the right people to see this post... My sister has a 5 year old deaf Australian Shepherd. She was adopted two years ago and was an only dog for a long time. She was SAID to have been a spayed female, and nobody ever questioned that ( I mean, seriously, why lie?). There has never been blood or really signs of heat, and she never put a second thought into it. She acquired a male pug pup this year, and then took on his "unwanted" brother. They are both un-altered as she wants to novice show one, and the other is still being " held" until the owner either takes it back or hands over papers, at which point she can make that decision. This didn't seem to be an issue except... they started acting a little overinterested in her Aussie for a week or so. We checked, no swelling, no blood, etc. Well, this is a dog in tip top shape. Shorter coat, nice tummy tucked in, tight skin, etc. Now, this heat was in December, and please don't give negative feedback because she leaves them to play in the yard when she washed dishes, etc. Never witnessed a tie, humping, but... well thinking she was spayed... Anyways, back to the real issue. Out of nowhere last week, the female's whole belly dropped, not in a fat way, but her nipples and surrounding area are sagging, and she looks like a dog that just whelped. She hasn't, and she isn't producing milk. We felt around, no lumps... does ANYONE have any idea what would cause this? I hate asking questions that make me sound like a complete dunce, and I only have limited information unless I relay and ask her as I don't own the dogs... Thanks guys __________________ ~Kristi in Virginia Beach Mommy to my 8 year old son... and ~ Cullen Vom Sandstranden, Purebred GSD, Black/Red Male : 12/16/09 ~ Panzer Vom Sandstranden, Purebred GSD, Sable Female : 11/29/10 ~ Gizmo , Amstaff, Brindle/White Female : 5/5/2000

02-03-2013, 01:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
wolfy dog Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,319	Vet visit. __________________ To know if you are doing things right, you should be willing to trade places with your dog.

02-03-2013, 01:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
KZoppa Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 16,272	Definitely a vet visit. __________________ The more people I meet and talk to,the more I love my dogs and their intelligence. Zena GSD 6/1/03 Shasta GSD 5/5/10 "Dax" Thor z vom Weberhaus GSD 3/18/2013 Riley GSD/BC 1/10/05-2/1/2013

02-03-2013, 07:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 17,553	definitely a vet visit, if she IS spayed, it could be a false pregnancy. __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

02-03-2013, 09:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
WVGSD Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,231	Sounds like a false pregnancy, but get to a vet and your sister might want to have the female x-rayed just to be sure. __________________ Shannon Sabra - new GSD puppy - April 30, 2012 Max - rescue GSD - Dec 22, 2010 to March 7, 2012 Sable - rescue GSD - at the bridge

02-04-2013, 09:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
VaBeachFamily Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,384	Never showed physical signs of heat, but the boy dogs acted like it. They are young... prob about 8 months at that time. I will let her know to take her to a vet. She is acting normally, only change is the physical saggy-ness __________________ ~Kristi in Virginia Beach Mommy to my 8 year old son... and ~ Cullen Vom Sandstranden, Purebred GSD, Black/Red Male : 12/16/09 ~ Panzer Vom Sandstranden, Purebred GSD, Sable Female : 11/29/10 ~ Gizmo , Amstaff, Brindle/White Female : 5/5/2000

02-04-2013, 09:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
VaBeachFamily Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,384	Also, no actual lactating. It's the areas around the nipples, where they would sag, but not full, it's all completely empty! __________________ ~Kristi in Virginia Beach Mommy to my 8 year old son... and ~ Cullen Vom Sandstranden, Purebred GSD, Black/Red Male : 12/16/09 ~ Panzer Vom Sandstranden, Purebred GSD, Sable Female : 11/29/10 ~ Gizmo , Amstaff, Brindle/White Female : 5/5/2000

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